Intel 13th Gen Owners BEWARE! #shorts

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The stock ILM is not applying pressure correctly as shown here with my 12th gen CPU. If you're buying into the LGA1700 platform or you haven''t remounted your cooler yet to look for yourself, the stock ILM is not applying pressure evenly all around hte CPU which is probably hurting your max load temps. You might be loosing out on some FPS!

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[nukfauxsho]

Its not just the CPU ILM not being flat, its also your cooler. Its a two point mounting cooler which historically causes a line (this was doubly so with 3770K, 4690K, 8th gen and 9th gen)

[viliamrev.]

It really helped, my 13600k went from 90C to 80C with the thermalright frame

[dracer]

I added the Thermalright CPU contact frame on my 12900ks and dropped 12c at 100% load. Huge difference and while gaming it barely hits 50c now. Best $5 I've ever spent on a PC part.

[lowellford]

You have to use a contact frame for 12, 13, or 14th gen cpus. Remove that spring tension mount from your motherboard. Paste needs to be warmed up to thin and finish spreading correctly. You best water cool that, run it in a cool room also.

[IskanderVFX]

I got the thermalright one for my 12700k night and day difference, plan to use it for 13900k as well, thanks for the video I had hopes they fixed it 🤦‍♂️

[lukastemberger]

Straight down the CPU is where heat is generated. Having better contact on the sides would make minimal improvement in temps.
Also, if that's the 13900K, you need an AIO, even the best air coolers will struggle. Corsair H100i works beautifully in my system, doesn't go over 80-83°C while stress testing.

[starsiegeplayer]

Good video. Really shows the problem in a concise manner.

[Bovined.]

for those that dont know: You should never use the stock cooler that comes with a cpu, those are mostly provided so you can power on the pc. Buy an AIO theyre easier to install and work very well

[tommypearson]

You need a Frame Bracket i didn't even waste time when i seen this was a issues before building my 13th Gen build it works wonders and my chip excelled even further

[ryanpaaz]

A super flat cooler doesn't mean much if the Intel stock ILM isn't made to the same tolerance. The better question is, what is the inefficiency gain vs what the thermal paste takes up. Also, the ILM interface to the die as well. Is it a huge difference? Or are we talking single digit percentages on golden binned parts? Whereas what we're given as a mass market device is within 5-10% of peak. Like anything else, there's diminishing returns, and having an ILM made to exact tolerances to squeak out 2% more just isn't a cost effective use of resources for 95% of people. Overclocking is fun and neat, but there's many more people who just want a chip that runs stable, doesn't require much tinkering and is is reliable for them to do what they want to do.

[j_shelby_damnwird]

I get the uneven pressure ILM issue can hinder system performance, but it seems that also a hastily installed contact frame can cause worse problems. I would go with the considerably more expensive Thermal Grizzly solution, since it has a threading torque indicator system that helps to avoid overtightening of the frame.

[Subaru_God]

Your cooler is more to blame. I do recommend trying a cooler that has a 4-point connection. The contact frame will only drop temps by 2 or 3 degrees but still worth buying cuz only costs 10 to 15 £/$. Do not buy a C/frame that costs any more than mentioned.

[constantin]

High temperatures can exacerbate the "pump-out" effect, where thermal cycles cause the paste to be pushed out from between the CPU and the heatsink

[mazing]

This was happening on my 14th gen, and I was using a 2 point AIO. It didn't matter how much pressure was added. Best method is a 4 point system.

[showbizwisconsin]

Voiding your motherboard’s warranty and potentially loosing memory channels is NOT worth a few degrees. You still have good contact with the die directly underneath the IHS. It’s important to point out that the contact frame does nothing for the longevity of the CPU and motherboard. The amount it bends is in the microns. It won’t even bend your motherboard.

[leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget]

Thermalright cpu contact frames solve this problem on 12th and 13th for 15$

[_Kaurus]

This is the exact reason why we have thermal paste. Let's make a mole hill.

You can probably guess that the CPU die isn't the entire size of the ihs.

[mrclips]

I bought the ILM before I purchased the cpu. It was immediately clear Intel did nothing about this.

[godofmtal]

That's the point of thermal paste. To fill the voids left by inconsistencies in the otherwise lacking perfect mating surface of an ideally laser cut matched pair of parts. If the distribution of pressure and the mating surface was perfect, there would literally be no reason to use paste at all and using it would likely just shove it all out the sides leaving nothing between them anyways.

This is fud.

[anonymousgent]

No, thermal paste are fillers, the line proves cpu had contact everywhere even after bending. Coverage of contact matters, not coverage of thermal paste.