Are Protestants Guilty for Rejecting Catholicism? (Ralph Martin)

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Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd wrestle with how culpable a person looking into Catholicism can be if the Catholic Parishes in their area are not teaching the faith.

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This was the point of the podcast when I thought: Matt Fredd should invite Matt Whirman from Ten Minute Bible Hour, who has visited pretty much every denomination in the USA, for a chat at Pints with Aquinas.

jgr
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POPE BENEDICT XVI: “St. Peter Canisius (1500s) knew how to defend Catholic doctrine without launching personal attacks on those who disagreed. In a historical period marked by strong tensions, he avoided giving into disrespect and angry rhetoric. This was rare at that time of disputes between Christians.”
Pope Benedict said that St. Peter insisted that there was a difference between willfully turning away from the faith and the “loss of faith that was not a person’s fault under the circumstances, and he declared to Rome that the majority of Germans who passed to Protestantism were without fault.”

BobbyBobBob-dl
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It's hard for me to believe the amish are damned to hell but LGBT priests doing mass in rainbow colored outfits are in good standing with the church/god.

jimilong
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I was a prot that found the new atheists' arguments convincing. Then I had a child and I wanted them to go to church like I did, but I was had already gave prots a chance so I tried catholicism. I'll be entering rcia soon.

BillyMNeitz
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This was a light years better than I thought it would be. Why? Humility.

jbm
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Love this. I was thinking about Cornelius in Acts 10. The Lord knew him, knew his heart, knew he loved Him, and led him to a fuller understanding of the truth.

carolinecraig
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I think we are finding ourselves moving toward Christian unity. We might be far away from formal reunification, but as I see these posts I can't hep but think that folks who are serious about their faith, whether Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, Evangelical or Reformed are understanding that Christianity is, first and foremost, about Jesus. I am encouraged, because I see that, regardless of tradition, so many are pressing on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of us.

ponhaus
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As a protestant that converted to Catholicism, and now just kinda lost not knowing anymore... I appreciate this talk. I feel like the worst thing I ever did after becoming a believer was to dive into theology and church history. It's an absolute jungle. It's often said by Catholics that if you know the truth of the CC and reject it, you will be damned. Well who in the world would reject the CC if they KNEW it was the truth? I left because I don't know... who could possibly know?

culpepper
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In auckland New Zealand. A chinese man came into the university chaplaincy saying he was from China he knew the catholic church was true and wanted to join it, but hed contacted multiple parishes saying this asking how to do it, and nobody had gotten back to him in three weeks. I think he'd even called one place... They said they would get back to him but still nothing. 🤦🤷

Insanity...

theignorantcatholic
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Really nice to watch this video. I am a Catholic and I am dealing with this exact issue. Firstly, I am bothered by the many Catholic parishes that I feel are creating lukewarm Catholics. How would a curious non-believer (and against wokism) find anything solid here? Then you have the other side where there are parishes that are a bit more "solid" but a lot of the members lack basic charity e.g. simple smile. How can a curious non-believer feel welcome here? We need help.

briandmello
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"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matthew 28:19-20

MarkPatmos
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AT 4:40 he makes a strong assertion that Catholic priests are "feeding people error and deception, " but can't be bothered to provide evidence or even one example. If by "deception" you mean the Catholic viewpoint, then sure.

Thinkingwithmichel
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Oh man. Come to Atlanta Ralph. The parishes in the metro area are icy icy. It's the worst.

mollym
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This was a great clip. I think what Matt said about 'Christ didn't die to send people on some historical fact-checking journey or to be overcome by analysis by paralysis is spot on." There is something very tangible and simple about the Christian faith. I think it would help Catholics to provide some argument, with simplicity at the forefront. I think the Catholic vision for reviving the Eucharist has been helpful for protestants coming to Catholicism. It made Catholicism more Christo-centric. This allures me to the Catholic faith. I have a desire to be Catholic more than I have a desire to be Protestant. However, I consistently run into roadblocks where I will hear something and just be entirely thrown off guard and think, "There is no way I could believe that." Just in this clip, I heard that Mary manifested herself to the Aztec people and that is what brought about mass conversion in the face of the conquistadors. WHAT? For me, there is a level of "conspiracy" let's call it, in the Catholic faith, that leaves me always questioning whether it is NECESSARY to join it.

tjseaney_
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I know the Catholic Church is the true Church of Christ for many reasons, but one that stands out most to me is that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has been trying to take down His church for 2, 000 years and has failed. Praise to You, Lord Jesus Christ. 🙏✝️

josiahhockenberry
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Perhaps we should take the principle of Romans 1:16 into account as well. Paul said that "the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation, to everyone who believes." The beauty of this statement is that the Gospel itself is salvific for the person who believes it. It follows the same principle as an unholy priest and the Eucharist. If the Eucharist has the same effect, even if the priest himself is not perfectly holy in that moment, then it also stands to reason that the Gospel itself is powerful. It also follows the principle of the seed sown in secret in the Gospel of Mark.
So long as a person believes the true gospel from the heart, the Holy Spirit is bound by His Word to save that person, regardless of where they are or from whom they heard it. The individual they heard it from may also be unregenerate and inwardly an apostate, they cannot destroy the power of the Gospel of Christ when it is properly announced.

nibs
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I left the Catholic church for a few years and returned. I find our young priest is all about devotion to the church and very little about being charitable and kind to each other. His homilies lack warmth and focus on obedience. It's Jesus that makes it worthwhile, not that atmosphere. It makes me very sad. For insight, warmth and love I turn to Fr Mike and Hallow. Online communities connect me with others and give me hope.

gdniteirene
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CARDINAL POLE, POPE’S REPRESENTATIVE AT COUNCIL OF TRENT: “Before the tribunal of God’s mercy we, the shepherds, should make ourselves responsible for all the evils now burdening the flock of Christ. We should take upon ourselves the sins of all, not in generosity but in justice; because the truth is that we are in great part the cause of these evils, and therefore we should implore the divine mercy through Jesus Christ.”

Catholicity-uwyb
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It always comes down to the most Holy Eucharist, if you believe that it is Lord fully pressent there, you are Catholic, and nothing else matters, because you know that you are Home. And then you realize Catholic teachings are true and you feel safe.

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I think, because of the fact that “God did not become man, bleed and die on a cross, rise again, to get people on a historical technicality” ( 3:47 ), is exactly the reason that there are saved Christian’s who will be in heaven, together, praising God, in all expressions of Christianity, whether its Protestant, orthodox, or Roman Catholic.

Thank you Jesus for your grace, thank you Holy Spirit for your guidance, and thank you Father for your will and love for us.

Apoch
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