What If VEGETA didn't turn MAJIN? | Dragon Ball Z

What If Vegeta didn't turn Majin and fought Dabura instead of Gohan?

In the Buu Saga of Dragon Ball Z, Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan enter Babidi’s ship with the goal of stopping Buu’s resurrection. Of course, we all know that things changed when Gohan fought Dabura and was unable to defeat the King of Demons which led to Vegeta’s frustration and Majin Vegeta. This all spiraled out of control extremely quickly, but what if we changed that last fight? Maybe have Gohan fight PuiPui or just have Vegeta’s frustrations lead to him entering the fight with Dabura himself? What would happen? Can the prince of Saiyans beat the king of demons?
So, let’s go with the second option. Vegeta has defeated PuiPui and Goku has defeated Yakon. Leading to Gohan’s battle with Dabura which goes exactly the same up until the moment that Vegeta says he’ll finish off Dabura himself. Before Goku can interject, Vegeta transforms and is in front of Dabura ready to blast him away. Now the real battle begins. Vegeta blasts Dabura to the ground and yells at Gohan to go to the sidelines - this is no time for games and he isn’t wasting anymore of it waiting for Gohan to mess it up.
Goku is about to say something, but Gohan flies down and tells him to just let Vegeta handle it. Dabura is stronger than he thought and he may be too weak to handle him now. Goku accepts Gohan’s decision and Dabura flies up from the ground. He taunts Vegeta, saying that it’s about time they took him seriously, but Vegeta shakes his head. He tells Dabura that it’s still a one on one but this time he’s not making it out alive. So the two fly at each other and the fight begins.
Now the answer to who wins this fight is a bit more confusing than some may give it credit for. Of course, Vegeta is confident he can beat Dabura, but can he actually? To start, we actually need to find out two things, whether or not he can use Super Saiyan 2 before turning Majin and the strength of Vegeta before he turns Majin.These are actually harder to answer than you may think.

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[RespekfulFungus]

There is no way Vegeta wouldn't have SS2. We all know that after the cell games Vegeta would not rest until he too broke through the wall. Seeing what it took for GohanvCell, he would figure it out.

[unclemonkey]

Showing Popo’s face when talking about the Saiyan pecking order was a nice touch lol

[jamircooper]

Vegeta discovered SS2 before Majin. He was just weaker than Goku. People just love downplaying Vegeta. But I also think Vegeta & Goku were both stronger than Gohan against Cell because he keeps making Gohan vs the Cell the measuring stick even at the beginning of the Buu saga & is talking down to it. Why people choose to debate it is wild

[nimiesele]

it makes no sense that vegeta couldnt use ssj2 before the majin curse because he was going toe to toe with a ssj2 goku who we know got it DURING the 7 year timeskip meaning that vegeta most likely got it before the majin curse

[ruivilasboas]

You know? These what if can be quite motivationals, for example: everytime someone makes a big decision it creates a what if/history. With that we can inspire ourselfs to make the big decisions that will change our live/creates a more better life story for ourselves trying to get the best what if out of our lifes!!

[spritvio]

I don't really get the whole "Were they using SSJ or SSJ2?" debates. I mean, even if you don't see electricity. Why would someone limit themselves by just sticking to the weaker form? Especially when they are having trouble.

[herbmaaster]

been wanting you to do an alternate scenario involving dabura for a long time and dang your production has elevated look at that beautiful gamecube setup

[LordChrome]

I don't know where people got it in their head that Dabura was relative to Vegeta, prob the same people who think Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu.

[Vulgun]

Actually, Vegeta killing Dabura makes more of a significant change than you think. Without Majin Buu in the story, Kid Buu will never die and become Uub, and Moro would end up likely killing Goku and Vegeta on New Namek, due to the lack of any intervention from the Grand Supreme Kai.

Now, there is a possibility that Merus decides to tell Shin and Kibito about the Grand Supreme Kai in Buu, but that also depends on if the egg containing Buu was destroyed or not. If it was, then that means that Moro wins and everyone dies. And even if Buu wasn't destroyed, there are factors such as time, Buu's compliance or noncompliance and Buu's strength. To me, this timeline's doomed.

[zelz]

Dabura being revenge blasted in the same way he blasted Kibito is just funny to me.

[jplaya]

This is easy. Vegeta was SSJ2 during the 7 years time skip. He was confident in beating gohan at the tournament. Plus vegeta knew gpku was ssj2 after yakkon. 3. Maijin powerups dont upgrade ssj forms. Vegeta was confident in beating dabura as a ssj1 before it was revealed he had ssj2. Goku and Vegeta thought dabura was a nobody magic aside.

In conclusion ssj1 vegeta rag dolls dabura

[DeadlyDan]

I'm glad you acknowledged Vegeta was able to go SSJ2 at that point. My theory that goes back to even the 90s was that a typical SSJ2 would be around cell level Gohan, who was in brilliant condition then, the best of his life really. I don't believe him being a teen affected an upper limit. Vegeta's SSJ2 would have been comparable in my opinion. Goku's SSJ2 is OP because he's mastered SSJ2, he knows the next form, SSJ3. This is comparable to SSJ1 frieza saga vs cell saga mastered SSJ1.

Vegeta knew Goku's SSJ2 form was stronger which is why he went for the Majin booster, to bring him on par.

[Trap]

Huh? 🤔 So there isn't much of a change to cannon, but No Majin Buu, Vegeta and Goku have a much more friendlier fight here, Goku doesn't come back to life until BOG, and Gohan gets back to training again after the Buu Saga, but doesn't get the Ultimate Form till later cool. Anyways good one-shot what if, and looking forward to your next video soon.

What if suggestion:
What if Gohan trained with Vegeta?
(Sometimes during the 7 year time-skip.)

[Charduza]

Yay this is exactly what I wanted thank you Carthu!

[darkamulet]

What if Gine Got The Future Sense Power Instead of Bardock? Maybe the siege of planet Kanessa was when she quit, so she not only gets it WAY earlier than her technical husband, but has the visions sooner enough to prepare more easily? Maybe this could be your own unique version of "What if Gine Went to Earth With Goku?"

[moorexsive]

I still think that Vegeta's fight with Dabura would be so one-sided that Vegeta would treat him like a punching bag, abusing him the entire time and laughing at him for being the "king of demons" and being so weak. On top of that he would be yelling at Kakarot the entire time saying that Gohan has gotten weak and he wants to finish this quickly so they can have their fight to see who truly is the strongest. And THAT would be the trigger to make Babadi turn him Majin getting Buu released.

[vsdsdcy]

*”What if Goku was revived after Cell’s death?”*

[TophDaGreat]

I like this way more than the actual buu arc. good stuff.

[ZAMCRO]

The Majin power up didn’t cause him to immediately be in a SSJ2 state. So I always thought if he’s using SSJ when initially being put under the curse, and transforms to SSJ2 later, I figured that way his own doing. Also without the Majin boost in the fight with Pure Boo to buy time for Goku’s SSJ3, Vegeta uses SSJ2 to fight Boo as best he can.

[MarcBienenfeld]

This was great and I absolutely loved the Popo Pecking Order reference