The Great Once Saved Always Saved Debate | Can A Believer Lose His Salvation?

Affirmative - Sean Griffin
Negative - Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Moderator - Donny Budinsky
Hosted by - The Baptist Bias

[ElitePitchingLessons]

Amazing how Shelly said Sean, who professed his faith and believing in Yeshua at age 17 and later began obeying all of YHWH’s perfect law and commandments isn’t saved because Sean obeys Yah, but someone who professes faith and belief in Yeshua but doesn’t follow Yah’s Ways is saved because they aren’t obeying His Ways… wow

[sanctifiedsupplyco]

His commandments are not burdensome. We keep the commandments because we love him. ❤

[eamGhast]

“Another One” - DJ Khaled Voice

Thank you for participating in these Sean, even though these guys like to play dodgeball, you still keep composed in presenting the importance of words, context and culture.

Shalom Brother, super grateful to you.

[ufcfanatic]

Thank you “pastor” Shelly for reaffirming my belief that the Baptist Church and its man made teachings are no longer the place for me. Sean, thank you for your patience with these blind leaders of the blind. Shalom

[TheKingdomIsComing]

When Jesus says in Revelation, "Depart from me, I never 'knew' you".... I'm so glad he gave us a way to know that we do know him. 1st John 2:3-6 we have come to know him if we keep his Commandments. Praise Yahweh!!!!

[Tracy-Inches]

Thank you for standing up, for being light in darkness. Much obliged to the Father for you our dear brother Sean! Shalom. Peace and blessings to you and yours!

[thelostsheepministrymedia]

Romans 2:13
For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified

Actions speak louder than words.. faith without works is dead.

[truthnow]

If people's behavior doesn't change after being saved, it's because they truly don't believe, but they are deceived!!!!

[mynameis]

this moderator, Donny Budinsky, did an outstanding job!! So well presented, coordinated and controlled.

[Mark.Asher]

Watching this debate has made clear to me that I have lived to see the Apostasy and that there is a very distinctly visible line between the wheat and the tares, and the sheep and the goats. And it is becoming clear who is who.

[tiggywink]

We need to pray for Pastor Shelley....

[amazinggiftsministry]

John 17:6 NKJV
"I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have KEPT YOUR WORD."

[austinrwann]

At 1:20 in Pasyor Shelly lost everything he was trying to prove. I grew up Baptist and it never made sense. Thank you Sean and the rest that really studied the scriptures enough with the holy spirit to get the programmed dogma out of the minds of so many. You are a true Berean! Pastor Shelly and the likes I pray that YAHUAH will open your eyes and peel back the covering. HalleluYah

[k.l.martin]

Sean, your armor is thick. Please keep up the good works. I appreciate you🤙🏾

[alexzipp]

Pastor: Give your heart to Christ, and if you continue to murder, you still have a spot in the kingdom.
Sean: Gave my heart to Christ, and started to follow the commandments.
Pastor: Not saved.

[whitecloud]

Sean = RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH Others = But men say.

[awalkthroughtorah]

This was a walk on the wild side! I grew up Baptist. I remember quietly questioning people’s commitment if they walked away. Maybe they weren’t really saved if they didn’t follow through. Overall, I remember just starving to death in the pew when my 6 kids were in grade school. I was very ill, and turned to Father Yah. I still have fibromyalgia, but my kids are all graduating now, and now I am praying for them.

This is also one of the first things I tackled when I was making videos. My answer was that we needed to remain focused on repentance when needed and service. If we don’t produce fruit, then we can’t show proof of our commitment. Justification is by faith in Yahusha, and righteousness is by works produced because of faith we have in Yahusha.

And let’s remember the promise of resurrection is for the New Jerusalem. I don’t know if we are conscious while we are resting in profound peace in the righteous side of Sheol.
The Lake of Fire is a one time event. Until we face the judgment, we are acting on faith in the down payment Yahusha made.

[TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel]

Sean I have always admired how whatever belief you hold you have kept a godly demeanour
Our Father יהוה and lord messiah יהושע would approve, it’s very respectful and may יהוה continue to guide you

[kingg]

Sean, keep contending for The Truth and The Word of YHWH! I admire your integrity, grit and level head in the midst of deceivers and Truth deniers.
Shalom to you and your family!

[lbskywalker]

Great job Sean!! You are spirit led and we thank Yah for your ministry. Your reward will be great in the Kingdom, brother.