'ALL HIGH GAIN SOUNDS THE SAME'... (PEAVEY 6505 VS EVH 5150III)

Guitars of the Day! Busting the myth that all high gain tones sound the same. Specifically, taking a look at two amps with common lineage, the Peavey 6505+ (now the 6505II) vs EVH 5150III Stealth. Two threads in the evolution of Eddie Van Halen's tone heritage but do they sound identical? Definitely not.

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[agufish]

Weird! Feel-wise the EVH is much tighter and smoother, but recorded, almost identical 🤔

Same IR, no boost, no post-EQ. Settings on each amp are almost exactly the same except gain is dialed further back on the EVH because it has so much gain it’s stupid lol.

[TacticalHyena]

wow its almost like the 6505 and the 5150 are related in some way 🤯

[dinein]

The 6505 is pretty much the "architecture" of the James Brown designed Peavey 5150... the EVH 5150 was designed and refined by the SAME James Brown. It makes sense that they are gonna sound pretty closely alike.

After James left Peavey, he designed for KUSTOM amps and then went on to develop AmpTweaker Pedals. He had to divest from AmpTweaker when EVH (himself) insisted that James Brown be brought on for the EVH/Fender (EVH is a Fender subsidiary) job. I own several AmpTweaker Pedals and they are AMAZING in their own right.

[OlgaTheBat]

Damn they sound so similar and do different at the same time

[leftofzeroofficial]

Always thought the 6505 was scratchy sounding. Couldn't ever seem to dial it out either. Moved over to a MkIIC+ and have never been happier with my sound.

[SashaGarcia]

Everyone has bionic ears till the blind test drops.

[drdoom]

Boomers will tell you they can't hear any difference, but claim they can tell when your LP doesn't have vintage correct glue 😂

[PXR-PXR]

Exact what i wished to see when i switched on utube mr mindreader. 😮

[NSE]

Ones is brighter the other is darker. No it doesn't sound the same lol

[stupidthefish]

That 74 custom is honestly one of the most interesting guitars I’ve seen you do a video on

[loganbennett]

Crazy how completely different amps have the same sound 🤯

[matthinkle]

What is that riff? It sounds familiar but I can't place it

[sambenevento]

EVH has more bite
6505 is more bottom end heavy. Warmer sounding.

[gearhead]

The evh is better tonewise and tighter

[ConsanguinitySlam]

i’m confident you can adjust either one to match the tones, if you set the knobs to the same position they’re likely going to sound different due to component tolerances. at the end of the day, it’s largely the same circuit.

[retiredcockroach]

Even if you put both eq knobs at the same spot, they will likely have a different effect on the signal since different amp models have different points where the knobs aren’t cutting or boosting its respective frequencies. Basically what I’m saying is that you could make these amps sound the same if you found the “flat spot” for each of the eq knobs and adjusted to your tone relative to that point.

[Jaceofspades]

How did you change without doing a cut?

[clarkbabin]

I never liked the sound of Peaveys in any live situation. They just have this wierd noise when they get up past a certain level .

[friendlyjvck]

6505 was built because evh went on to use another manufacturer, 6505 is the 5150 in all essence, a huge different that would be made are the strings or the cab and mic placement. As someone who has recorded music with both amps, after post, eq, and ducking freq for vocal room, there is virtually no distinction. Promise 🫡 this is not to fuel any argument, this is just stating my anecdotal evidence.

(Also fun fact 6505 stands for their 50th anniversary 1965-2005)

[MichaelSheaAudio]

I'm only on my phone at the moment, but the EVH is mixed louder. It's hard to pick out similarities and differences when they're not the same level. Maybe the mids are boosted and it just sounds louder, I don't know. And it's not that these two amps do sound the same, it's that they can sound the same.