Up Phone | Unplugged

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I am not a security expert, but rather an amateur. However, this phone raises a set of questions:
1) How is it better than solutions currently available, such as GrapheneOS? Except hardware killswitches
2) Is it open source?
2.1) If it is not open source, why should I trust it? Is there a way you can prove that the phone is not backdoored?
3) Many functions, such as perfect forward secrecy in up messenger, are portrayed as something unique, but in fact they are common. In fact, [matrix] protocol used in messenger is known to send more metadata than Signal protocol
4) What is insecure about Signal and Threema messengers? Why is UP portrayed as more secure?

ДаниилКоршков-гш
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I need more information on this phone and I need to know what provider I can use it on etc.

any
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Will the cell phone work in Australia?

josephgodridge
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Just ordered mine after watching TSR podcast.
It'll work on Patriot, so I guess I'm making a switch Cannot wait to get my paws on this.

workerdrone
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glows in the dark, like some other specie. r.i.p terry a davis btw

TyL
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I like the idea but i need more stats on the phone before i get it like does it have sd card slot an does it fast charge or does it have a desktop enviroment, does it wirlessly charge, what kind of gpu is on it

dirtymanny
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Website shows MVNO will work with that being said since you expect AT&T will be available with the phone before pre orders I’m hoping cricket wireless will work since it’s a MVNO of at&t

chromes
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For those concerned it's proprietary software; If this used Open Source code wouldn't that make it less secure? ... you know, since hackers can see how it operates.

MrNotoriousROB
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Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson recommended this, so it's probably legit.

stevebone
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Hopefully there will be a way to root your phone and load this software to Android phones.

wjjohnsable
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It allows for other messaging apps and can integrate them into one app,
this can be a good or bad thing, it is not open source, neither hardware
or software, they had a review by some random company to check their
security etc, not sure how much you can trust that, hardware
killswitches are found on other devices too, they haven't reinvented the
wheel, this glows a lot, it is also paid

tocraft
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This phone is a honeypot made by a ex-Pegasus developer. The software is closed source. Only idiots would buy this.
Remember what happened with the anom phone

uniqueprogressive
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I really hope this phone lives up to the hype. It’s a game changer forsure

MohrRacing
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This is a copy of BKAV's Bphone A85 in Vietnam

cuongnguyen-djfw
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כמה עולה הפלאפון ומאיפה אשפר לקנות אותו?

guyshlomi
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Will and how does this work on a Verizon network?

kayakwesty
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Fuck all the show that say whatever. I do fuck w shawn and james, and somewhat glenn.

I want to know what Edward says about this.

customconnections
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Something doesn't seem right, I'm getting Anom vibes.

gulfwhiskeyiv
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Don't buy it! Warranty isn't worth it! Don't get scammed!

Partimepeasant
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This thing claims to be pro privacy but is not open source. Do not buy this fraud's phones

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