What is the EASIEST WC3 race for beginners?

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This is a question that I've been asked literally hundreds of times in the past years: Which WC3 race is the easiest for a beginner? Well, today, many of you will get a clear, yet nuanced answer!

What is the EASIEST WC3 race for beginners?

00:00 Intro
00:18 What makes Human the easiest race?
07:23 Supply Management
08:31 Army Management
13:27 Creeping Management
20:03 Base Defense
23:15 Healing Management
27:06 4 Examples of easy strategies

#GrubbyTalks #Guides #Thoughts #Commentary #Gaming #EasiestRace #Orc #Human #Undead #NightElf
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@00:59 -- "Every human has different talents and skills, and some don't have any." Thanks for the shout-out in that last part.

Lucius_Chiaraviglio
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I LOVE that you answered the question right away and then got to the meat of it.

PFworth
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Only Grubby can tell his audience answer to the question in the title within the first 30 seconds of the video and still have people finish the video completely and even multiple times. ❤

petrgazda
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6:00 only humans can fast build in Age of Empires as well!

mbvglider
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This is a very interesting topic for discussion. At the moment, I have three friends who had experience in warcraft with either a company or custom games. They try each race trying to find an understandable and suitable one for themselves. And I noticed a number of common mistakes that are generally common and unique to different races.

I'll start with the general ones:
1. Extraction of wood. It is either barely mined or there is so much of it that you can build dams
2. The absence of upgrades as such, or pumping only those that are located in the same place as the order of units
3. Very late t2 or no t2 at all
4. Ignoring the store
5. Difficulties with using consumables for heroes, especially the teleport scroll
6. Constant losses of units on neutrals
7. An army of everything there is, including neutrals, if they can be hired on the map
8. A base crowded with towers or a second base with 1 building for gold mining
9. Problems with the control of units that need to use skills and 2+ heroes
10. One building for the production of units
11. Stand with the army on the base or wait for the opponent on the 2nd base
12. 50+ limit, often with a brute force of just one or two units
13. The army consists of 12 units, the rest are either lost on the way or are guarding the base as reinforcements
14. Accumulation of resources for the future that will never come

Now about each race separately.

Humans:
1. The base is an impassable maze of farms
2. Almost complete disregard for t2 units and rush in t3
3. Powerbuild at any cost

Orcs:
1. If the peons go into the burrows, they will stay there forever, almost guaranteed
2. Mana is lost, all hope is only for brute force

Undead:
1. Ghouls. If the starter gets a tree and does not fight, it's already good. If you can eat a corpse in the middle of a fight, this opportunity will not be missed
2. Sphinxes are just flying boxes
3. Each ziggurat must become a shooting unit
4. Destroying your own army with the skills of heroes to restore resources
5. Each new mine should have its own necropolis

Elves:
1. Each new tree is an irretrievably lost wisp
2. Many wells, but often empty
3. Although it was mentioned in the general errors, but here especially, 1-2 representatives of each unit.

As a result, depending on the duration of the game, either the alliance or the orcs often win. If the game came out fast with skirmishes between players, then the alliance is in the lead. If the game is delayed, the horde takes advantage of hp.

Thanks to all those who had the patience to read this subjective review.

JustDeadWOT
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I just started recently again. I played it like 20 years ago. Started off as a Human again on W3C. To be fair im getting crushed very often, but im still enjoying it. Whenever I have a win, I m truly exited :D so far I have a score of 5 W / 35L :D with about 600 mmr . Love your channel

PatrickGödde-xe
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The first time i played this game I wasn't even 10 years old. It's crazy to think I can see content created for it when I'm 27. It brings an "old" man a tear to his eye lmao.

susaac
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2:45 "and you are a human irl". No grubby, I identify as a night elf. I hunt demons on the daily irl.

jingweizheng
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Answering the question first is in fact the most important part of this. It frames all the other storytelling and opens up more questions for those interested.

Nolsie
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I think Grubby underestimates how overwhelming human is for a complete beginner. When I first started 1v1, human was so hard because of multitasking. I always got supply blocked because farms are only 6 food, I forgot to summon water elemental on cooldown, I couldn't tank creeps with water elementals, I couldn't militia creep expo without losing peasants, I couldn't react in time to save peasants, I couldn't keep casters alive and so on.

I feel with other races I could learn in steps but in human I had to do everything at once. For me at least, the multitasking was much harder to get used to than microing to a certain degree.

shrandis
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“36 seconds ago” a record for me! LOVE THESE VIDEOS

Bengoalkeeper
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I always picked a race by its cool factor regarding a personal preference. Even if it's harder then others when it's cool i have a drive to learn it even more.

milosmarinkovic
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I play HUM since childhood. Not bcose strategy or benefits. It's all about Light. For the glory of the Alliance!

donshep
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From the very start of the game I always thought, and I'm still confident to this day - the easiest race for beginners is - Orc!

It is clear as day imo, I don't even understand the matter of the discussion - Orcs have big units with more HP than other races in the begging of the game - orcs are quite easy to control, WAY easier than elf bunch, or human - human takes way more micro to control everything good, while orc have several units and can do successful herofocus, not to mention Orc heroes are quite lethal and hard to kill, which a great benefit for the beginners.

You don't need to control two bases from the start like human, your casters are quite frightening and easy to control, and one of the biggest advantages for the beginners - speed scrolls! Speed scrolls make a real difference when you are new and playing against newbs, also you can buy an expansion in your shop and build it in seconds, and you army don't need to be really diversed like hum's or elvish, even undead need to have more different units, while with orc you can haras with raiders and creep freely with rest of army.

Orc is like the most average race to me, this is why it's popular and the easiest for beginners, human are to complex to master, undead are too all-in, you either win with a great advantage or lose miserably, elfs are also very dependent on good mirco and have many weak low-hp units, so this is why orc looks so compromise between mirco and power of units.

Orcs has really good balance inside the race, they're easy to handle but yet powerful enough to win confidently.

zukunftverstehen
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Orc have super easy creeping with bm ilussions or fs. Healing from shop on t1, which have very good synergy with high hp grunts. Later on, sh and sb comes to play which make it even easier. I find night elve creeping pretty anoying if you play dh. You have to tank with your hero and go back to your base to heal up.

jart
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I think Orc is the easiest race to play overall because of high hp units and strong heroes, but Humans are very straight forward to play at almost every level of play because they have one strategy: Militia creeping into Fast-expansion Tier 1. Having an easy plan that you can follow (almost) every game really makes them appealing for newer type of players.

blacklotus
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I think that Grubs is just too affected with becoming pro many years ago, and didn't decline for the most years since. For him it's really difficult to understand what is easy for the newbs, because he looks through his professional experience.

I can say with an absolute confidence, for beginners the races are so, from easy to hard:

1. Orc
2. Undead
3. Human
4. Night Elf

zukunftverstehen
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Very informative -especially to new players! I am glad you mention the endless various deviations of builds with each race- people coming from other RTS games often want to follow strict build orders and meta strategies. Each game of W3 is so different and unique because of the hero and creep/battle engagements. Having fun out of meta is most important to me!
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aprizzledizzle
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I think Grubby should make a community poll on this matter (and then analyze why Orc won by a huge margin)

Grimbago
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haha, I actually play humans for the blood elves. I'm not particularly a huge fan of the human race in wc3, just because, you know, I'm already pretending i'm a human in real life. BUT I do love blood elves. I even got a blood elf paladin skin from the hiveworkshop xD

Madowl