Begun, the CM4 Clone war has

The clone wars are heating up. Can any CM4 clone unseat the original? It's complicated.

Here are clones and projects mentioned in this video (in order of appearance):

Contents:

00:00 - A word of caution
03:20 - Milk-V Mars CM
03:40 - Pine64 SOQuartz
04:07 - Radxa Rock 3 CM (CM3)
05:04 - LuckFox Core3566
05:48 - Orange Pi CM4
06:22 - BigTreeTech CB1
06:59 - Banana Pi BPI-CM4
07:34 - Turing RK1
08:12 - reTerminal DM
09:33 - CM4 TV Stick
10:21 - Nebra CM Flash Sticks
11:06 - EdgeBox-RPi-200
11:58 - Pi-Cast KVM
13:04 - BliKVM v4 Allwinnner
14:20 - Johann's Carrier Board

[ilovefunnyamvnd]

"We never got that model working because we've already switched to a newer design" is not an acceptable answer

[bzuidgeest]

I have been saying this under so many pi killer videos. The value of the pi is not in the hardware it's in the ecosystem. Supurb documentation, software support and community. Turning out a board with the same plugs is easy. Actually supporting your users very much something else and only the pi really has that. And it's why even businesses turn to it.

[marcogenovesi]

And this is why upstream kernel support is a good thing. Otherwise you are stuck with a pile of hacks running on the vendor SDK (that is itself a pile of hacks on top of an old Linux kernel).
Or as the pros call it: "the vanilla embedded linux experience"

[nullify.]

I really do appreciate Jeff using his platform to call out companies that aren't attributing the upstream projects. Very good!

[marcogenovesi]

The BigTreeTech CM clone (and their raspberry clones) are mostly for running Klipper 3D printer control software. It does not need to be terribly powerful to be good enough for all Klipper features

[vileerdeng]

As always, great video! Thanks for mentioning Pi-Cast KVM. Pi-Cast KVM benefits from the open-source community, so we would like to contribute to the community by open-source the project schematic. Before this, there were no open-source documents about hardware on the market. Anyone wanting to develop their ip-kvm-related hardware can learn from it.

[DrunkSnowWhite]

TLDR: If you have the time & knowledge to play around with a board, clone boards potentially better than a raspberry pi.
If you're lacking one of those two, however, you're gonna have a bad time

[ypat]

RPImager 1.8.1! Kidding aside, an impressive amount of work went into creating this video. Thank you for presenting all these alternatives to the CM4. Not in the market for one myself but worthwhile to stay informed. Happy Thanksgiving and whatever you do, don't allow Red Shirt Jeff to deep-fry the turkey.

[smenewithhands]

last RISC-V CM4 clone was an option for me, but for now.. thanks Jeff, now i can choose from more options!

[VACInc]

Disappointing that the support for most of these clones are severely lacking...on the bright side, I'm really looking forward to your upcoming PiKVM video reviewing all of them!

As always, awesome stuff Jeff!

[Iisakki]

I think there's a reason why Chromecast switched from stick to a dongle form factor 😅 seems like an accident waiting to happen with that big board.

Nice to see that the btt/biqu one worked without issues! Currently waiting to install one to my printer. Though I definitely won't hesitate to replace it with an official cm4, if I run in to issues. Can't beat the support raspberry pi has!

[Mr.Leeroy]

There must be a special cage in hell for those who think Discord is a good tool for anything even a bit more serious than a chit-chat, let alone documentation, support and substitution of proper technical forums.

[dominick]

Has Jeff ever released a bad video. No. The answer is no.

[twols]

Jeff, your videos are, for lack of any better words, fantastic! Your Tube site is now my first go-to site for anything related to the rise of the tiny computers (and other compute-related gear) for everything from industrial control to fun home projects. Your style is straightforward, your production quality is top-notch and seamless, and you are guru-level at making what can be rather complicated stuff consumable by a wide audience, and I love your sense of humor. Along with all of that, you have an ethic that is unquestionable. Your criticisms are extremely fair and are always explained in full, and I also love the fact that you will call out vendors that take questionable shortcuts on their way to making sales, such as skipping documentation, or by far the worst, using open-source code in their product without attribution in violation of licensing terms. As far as I'm concerned, your content is within 6-sigma of perfection. Keep up the amazing work!

[Enixious]

I used to think the same "why not just get a cheaper *insert many SOMs* anyway" until I actually bought an orange pi and installed octoprint on it... So much more complicated than doing it on a Raspberry Pi

[JohnADoe-pgqk]

This CM4 clone army reminds me again of one of my favorite lines from a fantasy novel. Said in my own words: "Any idiot can't raise an army. The problems start at lunch."

[thomasthemaker]

Man i miss this kind of content: entertaining, info rich, and straight to the point

[timeltdme]

hi, can you create a table of features and how easy it is to boot? or at least divide the list in working / not working, thanks!

[LibreComputer]

We have a compute module with twice the Pi 4 performance and upstream 6.6 kernel coming out in a month.

[StormWarningMom]

I appreciate your take on this...I've always been fascinated by these things and because it's so geeky and technical, it just satisfies my curiousity about them.