Is Mental Illness A Myth?

Matt Walsh and Jordan Peterson have an in-depth discussion on depression and mental illness. What are those two things exactly and how should we address them?

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[alaeacusmcfly]

I would say Matt has a point in a way. Our mistake isn't that we've allowed mental illness to to become defined as an illness. Our mistake is in letting mental illness become chique, in that every human in Western society wants to self-diagnose a stubbed toe as mental illness, or "trauma", and gain social sympathy points from the world at large, or use it as a shield they can use to protect one's self from criticism.

[JeffHuntsinger]

Im a conservative former combat veteran with depression and anxiety. REST ASSURED its Very real. Its trying suicide twice REAL.

[seandelap]

As someone who knows someone in my family that has a mental illness i can say with certainty that its not a myth its a terrible infliction to have to live with in fact

[esteban]

Based on what I see on the street, I would say mental illness is NOT a myth.

[jhpt]

I don’t think depression is a myth. I do think it’s a result rather than a cause/disease.

Depression doesn’t just come from nowhere. It is a result of deeper issues that you need to get to the root of.

[flowerpower]

Tread so lightly on this please. Depression is so difficult to live with . It doesn’t matter what you label it as. It’s horrible. It’s not feeling sad, it’s being unable to function at times.

[ethxo]

Schizophrenia runs in my family. My grandma has it, her brother has it and I have 2 cousins that have it.

Mental illness is absolutely not a myth.

[posthuman]

Just because YOU do not have any mental illness, does not call into question whether it is real or not. Consider yourself lucky. This is a very scary question, I can only imagine if our government started thinking like you and then truly mentally ill people would no longer be able to get the help they need.

[JosephSeibert-de]

Not a myth but its used as an excuse for nearly every friggin crime and wrong act anymore. Most aren't mental they are deluded or stupid.

[cdsnider]

As someone who has always thought depression was BS. About 4 years ago, my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. I took it really hard. I stood by her side and she is cancer free today. After going through the first year of treatment and everything, I found myself very mentally unstable. I got really depressed and couldn't pull myself out of it. I was crying every day. I would find myself having to drive by my office because I couldn't stop crying. As soon as I would find get myself to work. Somehow, I could pull it together and pretend I was ok. It took therapy and medication to get through it. I'm doing much better today. I'm not the same person I used to be, but I'm working on it. I don't have he confidence in anything that I do like I used to, but I'm doing ok.
Through it all, I realized that depression is real and people go through things they can't control.

[katiegoff]

I have struggled with depression and anxiety much of my life. I have found that 90% of mine was related to nutritional deficiencies and hormonal imbalance. I changed my diet, cut out sugar and processed food, and it has COMPLETELY changed my life. I can cope with difficult situations in a much healthier way.

[kirbyk]

I don't recall the actor's name, but he said something which I didn't know at the time, yet is very profound. This actor said that the reason why we have so much depression, is because our world is sick! This was the best explanation I've ever heard, and it's still the best today.

[wimsylogic]

I see some mental illnesses as injuries rather than illnesses. Injuries that haven't healed properly and left scars.

[dukedex]

Only people who have never suffered with real mental health problems would question this, . Not talking about feeling sad, which is only temporary emotional changes.

[BartlebyHiggensworth]

I used to think I had depression. Eventually, I realized that my depression wasn't a "disease" or some "thing" that was happening to me - it was a coping mechanism. I just needed to start exercising my own agency and refuse to let it be coopted by others. But it took a year or more of therapy to really get there.

[joaquinalfonso]

You had it too easy Matt. Mental ilness is real and therapy works.

[Crym]

What I got from JP on this is that most mental illnesses are like Pneumonia or MS.

That is, they're a label that ultimately describes symptoms rather than a cause.

It's not that they're not real but that they don't describe the cause.

[toothdecay]

People confuse depression with sadness. Depression and anxiety are persistent, chronic states. Symptoms are physical as well as mental. If you're lucky enough never to have experienced it, then you have the luxury of speculating whether it's real or not.

[kittybitts]

I was taught in nursing school that depression resulted from chronic sorrow, losses never properly mourned, injuries never properly addressed such as childhood neglect and abuse. For some people, people who are suicidal for example, medication is better than allowing them to kill themselves, but if you can find a way to help them resolve past injuries and sorrow, to mourn properly but work through coping skills to overcome injury then they can recover without drugs.
Dr. Phyllis Moore taught us that if you listen to sad or violent music or messages it actually changes your brain chemistry in a negative way. Watching stressful, sad or angry videos can also affect your brain chemistry that way.
She was a brilliant professor, and everything she taught us was based on research we had to read.

[D_A]

Mental health isn't a myth. It's a side effect of modern-day living 😒