The Nevers Episode 4 REVIEW

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Drew reviews The Nevers Season 1, Episode 4, Undertaking, on HBO.

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I like that Myrtle's spoken lines aren't captioned in show. It makes it far more intriguing.

JemJemison
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OMG! The best episode so far! Everyone's acting were topnotch. Especially when Amalia restrained her sobs near the end. Laura is so good!

Finally, Amalia's true identity is slowly being revealed but gives us more questions in exchange. Aliens is what first comes in mind but I'm afraid that it's too obvious. This show doesn't really do obvious. I'm even doubting Penance because the Masked Men are part robot!

Lucy's arc was very sad. I'd say she parallels Rogue's story in the X-Men, both having deadly "touch" powers (breaking/life force absorption), both killing a loved one when their powers activated (infant son/boyfriend-coma), turning to powerful evil men in the hopes of a cure (Massen/Apocalyse from the animated series). I'm hoping Lucy gets Rogue's redemption too.

SouthsideStories
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I love the twist on who is the spy but it was a very sad episode. Good thing the Golden Ship was stated again and yeah she is a different entity and when she said she is "left behind". Maybe they are people from another dimension but she has memories of her human host or they have emotions that makes her feel human.

mistercat
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Episode 5 is supposed to be the game changer - can't wait! Eps 1-6 are Part I of season 1 (and thus ending Whedon's part of the series). I hope we hear about the second half of Season I soon!

cinne
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You know... I think there is something to this as well.
1- Remember the scene where Maladie describes Amelia as "the one who sheds her own skin." Kind of like a serpent would do. Or how a caterpillar would do before turning into a "butterfly" (as in the shape of that space craft).
2- Then there is the scene where the Beggar King threatens Amelia by pressing his knife to her face. She replies by pressing her face harder into the knife, and says something to the effect of "go ahead, this isn't my face anyways." Hmmm... that's twice that this "skin" line is used.
3- Then Amelia says a few times that "she was left behind and doesn't know what her mission is, or what her cause is." Left behind from where, by who???
4- There are rumors that this show has many analogies to religious context, but from an abstract "anti-religious" lens.
I think Amelia is some kind of "fallen angel warrior" from that mysterious space craft. Which implies she may be some type of alien who is in human form (hence, not in her own "skin") who has hand-to-hand combat skills. And can't remember or see the whole picture of why she is there (her mission), or why they are on earth, and why they created the "touched."
5- When I saw the worried face Myrtle (the language girl) as she was listening to Mary sing - I knew she was hearing something different than a "song of hope." But instead some type of message.
So when they finally decrypted the message and read it back to Amelia, I think she knew exactly who the message was coming from and from where (their leader). Which is why she broke into tears. And I think the only one who knows the truth about Amelia is her "touched" friend, Penance (as in confessing your sins penance - another religious context). I think Penance is more than a friend - she called Amelia her sister in E1. Hmmm....

galoguevara
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Did you notice that F.E. Boyle, the female reporter is played by the same actress as Maladie? Clever, huh? Look closely, it's her.

amyslowikgrossman
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Great review. I was mostly satisfied with the Amalia revelations. Still waiting for her to shed her skin or at least change her face and the explanation for her unique set of fighting skills. Not only did Odium survive I thought Detective Mundi was winged but he didn't seem any the worse for wear.

TheRichardchaney
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So...are you going to discuss the last five minutes in a separate video? Mary’s message, Amalia’s amazingly acted reaction, what we’ve suddenly learned? (Also how awesomely on point my prediction of the collective translation was.) ;)

mitchgunzler
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Whoever killed Mary tried to use odium to take out true so it’s not the beggar king. That’s too on the nose.

jimsto
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I think Massen could eventually become an ally. It looks like an inversion-that-isn’t they are setting up. The Touched really are some kind of invasion, or at least refugees, so he isn’t entirely wrong. But that ship was fleeing something, and Mary’s song says that Amalia’s mission is to save the world from Darkness. Meanwhile he is a soldier committed to defending his country, and perhaps surprisingly quick to respect Amalia and take a woman seriously. So he may well align with our heroes when she is able to make the picture clearer to him.

mitchgunzler
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So far we are seeing a story about the Touched. But the show is called The Nevers. Who are the Nevers? Have we even seen a "Never" yet? Are they two different things. And why start the show with such a specific date - Aug. 3, 1896? I tried searching for significant events on that exact date but couldn't find anything. But Aug. 3rd is the date when Christopher Colombus set sail for "the new world." So now I'm thinking The Nevers are aliens who want to "colonize" earth. Maybe the Touched are another race of aliens sent to stop them. Earth is just caught in the middle of a proxy war. War is mentioned a few times in the show, but from the context of preserving the British empire. This show is messing with my mind. I hate that I love it so much. I need (BTW - Penance is such a cutie).

galoguevara
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Maladie is one of the most interesting characters for me. I think the spores are potentially sentient. I’m interested to see what happens with Olivia Williams character. I suspect she’s touched too and I bet she’s hiding something underneath her lap blanket.

lordfarquaad
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One dark thing Amalia really should have done is kill Odium. He was, inarguably, trying to murder her permanently for real.

mitchgunzler
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Curious, what happened to Lucy's powers? She was fighting Amelia and then, when she touched things they were no longer breaking? I didnt understand that. Where did her powers go? Do they come and go at will? Nor what her real motivation for being the spy was. Because she hates her powers because of her son, ? Her speech wasnt that well done. What was in it for her to be the spy when she seemed to have bonded with the gals? A possible cure? It was vague. I didnt even catch that the Jesus walking on water dude is still alive lol I heard her mention it, but it slipped passed. lol I had problems with this episode. But overall still love the show.

lalareal
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I think Amalia might be an angel. Maybe not what we typically think angels are but something like that. Seems evident there’s a good and an evil at play.

amandacircharo
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I noticed you (as well as a few others) say that Lord Massen lost his granddaughter. So I took another look at the cemetery plot at Massen's estate. His wife, Gwen, was born in 1850 and died in1887 (age 37). His daughter, Lillie, was born 1887 (the year his wife died) and died in 1896 at age 9 (the year of the event). I suspect that Lillie's grave is empty and she is imprisoned in his cellar. After hearing the sounds, I believe his daughters' turn makes her extremely dangerous. Instead of killing his child, he locked her up. An interesting choice for a single father.

jpsoso
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One other thing Colin has no feeling for Mare. That was the alcohol talking. He thought he would get lucky.

estherblount
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She seems human, but they hinted a human from the *future*. She knows what an amplifier is, and she doesn’t know the streets of this London despite speaking English and with that accent. Amalia also said “when I come from, ” and among other things mentioned that being a woman with an opinion is fine then. So, the distant future.

mitchgunzler
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Love it, deep theories, 2 things and both from episode 1, watch her opening scene slowly, crawling from off the floor where she SLEEPS? That and the scene she pulls herself out the water, very symbolic of the Evolution of life, also she is very "Cat like", dude, on all 4s crawling, always with the jumping off shit, OPEN HAND PAW SLAPS when she can clearly punch, Mrs. Bidlow with the tiger joke, and this is just ONE angle 👍 (sorry so long)

nicksilver_music
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Maladie said she was told Mundi was honest and wouldn't lie to her like all the others; I wonder who told here that?

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