#466 Difference Between HTTP and FTP

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Difference Between HTTP and FTP, for folks who don't know already.

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Start watching from 1:20 to save yourself some time

hulisanimudimeli
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@HypX2

Additionally, the PORT command is used (yes, mainly in FTP-active mode) to specify the destination port. The FTP server will send the data over FTP from Port 20 (source port) to the port specified using the PORT command (destination port)

fnmatrix
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didn't know that. well I guess im starting off the day well when I learn something like this . Thanks!

APOKALYPSE
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@HypX2
That may be the case. Just saying that Port 20 is the Official FTP-data port specified by IANA

fnmatrix
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@fnmatrix The use of port 20 depends on whether you're using active mode or passive mode FTP. Both modes, client makes control connection from random unprivileged port N where N>1023 to port 21 on the FTP server. Active mode, the server makes data connections from port 20 to port N+1 on the client. Passive mode, port 20 normally doesn't get used. Client makes data connection from N+1 to a random high port the server chooses.

ElevenColors
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File Transfer Protocol
Port: 20 - Data connection
Port: 21 - Control (FTP commands)

For those wanting to know what the different connections were for FTP

fnmatrix
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So the youtube upload mechanism is still in the domain of HTTP?
and even the multiple photo uploads we have for facebook?

Iamherp
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@TheItsumaru Awesome. Glad I could provide a stepping stone.

ElevenColors
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@HWGuyEG Aye, because websites are often hosted on more than one machine at a time, and FTP's two channel thingy doesn't play with that so well. VPS and VDS? Haven't heard of those.

ElevenColors
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@markshmily Late night munchies can be ignored, delayed. Not sure what the secret is but it can be done.

ElevenColors
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@qiranger FTP, good for moving massive trees of files and directories. Not always so easy to handle if you have a NAT firewall at either end. UUCP, wow. Haven't even heard that word in over a decade.

ElevenColors
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@HypX2 Ooooo.... Clever. You taught me a good one. Thanks.

ElevenColors
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question.
can we use ftp for http purposes !? and vice versa !?

dinhomhm
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@HypX2 @fnmatrix Googling "slacksite active ftp vs passive ftp" gives probably the best explanation of active vs. passive.

ElevenColors
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@HypX2 Very true, but mentioning keepalive would have been too much for folks who don't yet understand the difference between H T T P (which YouTube's comment thingy doesn't let me type in one stretch) and F T P.

ElevenColors
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I also get the late night munchies.. I need to keep more fruit around the house. :P

EatCarbs
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I didn't know all this! Very interesting and i now know more about the internet!

TheItsumaru
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@APOKALYPSE34 No problem. Glad you learned something.

ElevenColors
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@bboytrippin Folks who don't get paid by the hour, there is no concept of overtime pay. Folks who do get paid by the hour, they work the hours they're paid for. Yah no worries, protein shakes & roasted chicken breast thingy after workouts.

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Ah yeah. This would have been the fisheye lens on my HFS11. Video #419 was the one where I unboxed the lens.

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