The TED LASSO Moment Where Nate Turned GOOD Again

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I review, breakdown and explain Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 8. I discuss Nate and how the character has started his pathway to redemption. I react to his relationship with Jade, him wanting to speak with Ted, his inferiority complex with Rupert and how he will most likely leave West Ham and go on to be head coach at AFC Richmond. I also give my theories and predictions for episode 9.

00:00 Intro
02:19 When Was The Moment Where Nate Changed?
06:51 Outro

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How do you see Nate's character finishing off in Ted Lasso Season 3? Comment your thoughts below!

BrainPilot
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Naw man, Nate needs to reconnect/reconcile with Will (whom he has NEVER treated fairly) before I'll consider him "good"

domofreak
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I dont feel like Nate has convinced me yet. We never see Nate doing nice things for people if it isnt going to help him. We still havent. Him saying nice things about a restaurant, as a defense mechanism to explain his decision, isnt nice. Him creating a gift to get a girl to go out with him is still trying to get something for himself. Him creating his version of the Diamond Dogs? He only formed it for himself, and shot down the other man when he was trying to open up and share. He might be returning to the man he was before, but that man wasnt enough. If Nate is going to be redeemed, he needs more than romance with a woman he'd been cruel to or reconcilling with someone he sees as a superior. I need to see him make decisions and being kind to others just to be kind, not because they have power over him, or because he thinks it'll get him something in return.

Hazelstar
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As they say, all you need is love. Nate will find his way. I’ll probably cry myself out when it happens.

abma
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Nate’s reconciliation is going to take place at Ted’s house and somewhere in the course of that he’s going to see the photo he gave Ted sitting in his bedroom with the pictures of his family.

KG-vnuj
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Nate won’t be redeemed in my eyes until he fully apologises to Ted

fayesouthall
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I believe Ted was a father figure for him. Ted gave him confidence and it didn't matter how awkward Nate was. Ted showed no judgement, unlike his father. Nate, imo, was/ is a "kid", especially when he called his mom and practiced what he'd say; plus seeing how his father asked out his mom - before asking Jade on a date. He's realizing who he wants to be. He pissed me off in S2. The writers are doing a terrific job. Nate will be a kick-ass head coach of Richmond with Roy and Beard assistant coaches and Ted being proud from the States with his wife and kid.
Btw, please let Jade be legit.

Saltysweet
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I think what this show does better than most others is explore how easily we mistake who people are in themselves for who they are to us. That's what Nate really struggles with the most. To Nate, Ted was in the way of his potential, as father figures often are. So he was angry at Ted the person, because Ted the mentor wasn't going to elevate him to the role he wanted. Instead, Ted gave that role to Roy, who he saw as an equal. No one at Richmond saw Nate as an equal. Nate needed to get out of there to grow. But what often happens in breakups is that we vilify the people we need to leave so we don't feel like the bad guy. That's what Nate did, only to quickly realize he made himself the bad guy by trying to make Ted Lasso, of all people, the bad guy.

Meanwhile, Rupert clearly took on the role of nurturer on a higher level, promising Nate all the things that Ted couldn't, e.i.: the role of lead coach instead of assistant coach. He gave Nate the opportunity to get full credit for his accomplishments, instead himself of being Ted's accomplishment. (That was the trouble with the Wunderkind/Wonder Kid moniker, it still characterizes Nate as the gifted kid that Lasso discovered. Ted's original nickname for him, "Nate the Great, " would have skipped all that drama.) So Nate is struggling to sort out Rupert the benefactor with Rupert the scummy person. And he's still struggling to sort Ted the friend from Ted the mentor he's outgrown.

One of the most self-centered things we can do is ignore who people actually are in favor of who they are to us. I think Nate is learning this lesson, realizing that he held Ted responsible for holding him back when it was only his love of Ted that held him back. So I don't think Nate is just going to apologize and redeem himself. I think their reconciliation is going to go a lot deeper, with them solidifying a lifelong friendship through their professional rivalry.

That would be the Lasso way. And it'd make a great ending to Trent's book.

rottensquid
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Nate refusing Rupert's wish of hooking up with the women at the bar was the moment that I started liking Nate again. I mean, him keeping his confidence, avoiding doing his usual ritual of spitting at his reflection and slowly realizing Jade actually cared for him was sweet(I saw Jades face when Rupert lowkey insulted Nate by saying she was out of his league). I think initially, Nate would have slept with one of them because it was what was expected of him as a hot blooded male. However, he chose Jade and went to her rather than doing what Rupert wanted. Thats when I began to forgive him. I need him to apologize to Ted and his replacement for what he did too though.

phousefilms
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I think what Nate really wanted was to be seen. By the team. By his father. By Jade. And he never felt like he was. Ted gave that to him, but then Nate felt like just as quickly he was abandoned by him. He was given just a taste of importance and mattering to someone, and then he felt like it was ripped away. When he accidentally snubbed Ted after the West Ham game, Nate realized that Ted had done the same thing. Nate assumed that he should be praised and congratulated FIRST after a win, but really everyone gets so excited they just go to whomever is closest or in their eye-line. That was when Nate started to soften. He realized how much he had actually been included and loved (diamond dogs), and how much he missed that. He stopped the spitting in the mirror. He won over Jade by being genuine to his date about why he liked the restaurant. He made amends with his dad. And then finally Ted. I thought it was very fitting that in the final episode, after the win, Ted and Nate both hug other people before celebrating with each other.

JBdowntown
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Nate was never motivated by power or money. He has always only craved connection with people. He thought power would gain this but he learned he was wrong — it did not fulfill him. Being vulnerable is what has always won him connection and it’s something he first felt with Ted. I predict before the end of the series, He quits West Ham and asks Ted for his old job back. He helps them to avoid relegation and they make a strong run. Ted decides his journey at Richmond is done, says a heartfelt farewell and Nate is promoted to manager.

donngu
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The thing about Nate thou is even when he was at Richmond he was still an asshole to people he thought were weaker then himself once he became a coach because of his narcissistic traits. Like how he treated Colin and Will the kitman. I feel that's still gonna be with him, he just feels bad how he treated Ted, doesn't mean he's completely gonna change

plaidzebra
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My interpretation of Nate is that he was so deprived of recognition and praise while the kit man at AFC Richmond that as soon as he started to get a taste of it he was addicted to it and that made him act out to try to get more, so to get more recognition and praise he wanted to supplant Ted. Then he gets the job at West Ham and gets it in spades but he learns that while recognition is nice, that isn't what he really wants out of life. His relationship teaches him that it's his relationships with others that make him happy. And he starts to realize that he burned bridges with some of the most loyal and caring people he has ever met in order to chase something that never really made him happy in the first place.

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I think one of the main catalysts for Nate beginning to perceive things differently and form a better relationship with himself is his relationship with Jade.

We see that when he’s lauded and held up for his role as WH manager (Ie at the after parties, when the manager at the restaurant hypes him up), when he’s finally given the kind of status and recognition he’d been longing for, it doesn’t feel right to him - he feels uncomfortable. Being praised for what he does as opposed to who he is as a person feels hollow and empty. The final straw here seems to be at his favourite restaurant when his supermodel date criticises the place. And it’s only in this scene, when we finally see him just be himself and speak truthfully (without regard for how ‘cool’ he might seem), that Jade begins to warm to him. He sees this, and he experiences how much better it feels to be appreciated for who he is as opposed to the person he was trying to be.

Jade as a person isn’t concerned with perfection, status, or traditional ideas of success, in herself or in other people. When we see them wake up together, Nate admits that he’s gotten up to brush his teeth, shower, and even used the loo in his neighbour’s flat before Jade woke up, to maintain an air of perfection. Jade finds this ‘weird’ (but without any judgement towards Nate), and is herself perfectly fine with Nate smelling her morning breath and hearing her pee. They make a point to show that Nate is surprised by this - it’s a moment to illustrate that she’s reshaping his ideas around how it’s okay to just be a human being around other people, and that one can still be loved and accepted whilst just being themselves.

When she points out the photo of Ted and Henry at the WH game and says ‘they look happy’, it triggers a moment for Nate in which he realises that Ted didn’t have any ulterior motive for being at the game, he really is happy to be there and for Nate’s successes.

Jade helps Nate to gain a more clear perspective, and to build his self esteem, a lack of which was the root of his difficult feelings and bad behaviour. Once he realises that he can be loved and cared for just as he is, he’s able to see clearly how he’d misread Ted’s behaviour in S2, and how he’d ultimately been in the wrong.

caras
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Bro I legit cried when Nate started playing his violin and had a conversation with his dad..

SK-kifq
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I'm not religious but my favorite quote comes from the Gospel According to Thomas: "If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you." Needless to say, I love when a person brings forth what is within themselves, on the screen and in life. I eagerly anticipate Nate evolving into his best self.

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Nate can turn the corner, apologize to Ted and the team, but I can't see him coming back to the team. They will never forgive him and will never trust him again.

edm
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This show, if described in one phrase, is about fathers and sons/daughters. The central father/son relationship, though not obvious, is Ted and Henry, and Ted’s obsession with doing right by Henry.

So many other characters have the father/child conflicts. Nate and his dad. Jamie and his dad. Rebecca and her dad. Rebecca and her mom. Phoebe and her dad. Phoebe and her surrogate dad, Roy. Roy and his surrogate dad (his grandfather). Ted and his dad. Sam and his dad. Higgins and his children. The list goes on (I’m assuming Trent and his dad too)

But so importantly, it includes Nate and his surrogate dad (Ted), and he doesn’t know what to do with someone that kind. Don’t forget that Ted became Jamie’s surrogate dad as well, at the time when we hated Jamie the most. Jamie has been redeemed (I have a feeling we will see his mom before the series end). Nate will be redeemed too, because that is what this beautiful series is about. The hope of redemption between parent and child. Nate cannot be fully redeemed with Ted without showing his repentance and love for Ted, and Ted cannot be fully “redeemed” with Henry without showing his compassion, forgiveness and love for Nate: a lost soul whose picture he still keeps displayed on a table in his flat. He loves Nate. An unwavering love.

As Dr. Sharon said, “The truth will set you free. But first, it’ll piss you off.”

baldpianoguy
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I don't think that it's about him being good or bad. It's about him feeling he's worthwhile which was expressed when he went to ask Jade out and visited the mirror. Instead of spitting at himself again, he saw someone he liked and could root for. Now, Rupert, that's a villain. We care about Nate because he's not a villain, but he's been trying to be one, to remake himself into something cooler. Also, the press didn't make him out to be a villain. They actually supported him and believed in him (because he's English and Ted's an American). Only Trent Crimm knows the whole story: the pettiness of tearing the Believe sign up, the insecurity of exposing Ted's panic attack, etc.

You are so right about the moment he transforms, though: he sees in Rupert his own moral failure and understands what a poor choice he made. I believe the real message of TED LASSO is about kindness and positivity in masculinity being important for a better world (and for a better class of man).

christopherhooker
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What Nate feels is guilt. He felt bad about how things ended at Richmond. Is he a good guy? Idk. I would rather see Beard be the manager of Richmond if Ted leaves to be with his son/family. Also, the team lost respect for Nate after seeing that video ripping the believe sign.

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