What’s STRONGER? Bowline VS Figure 8 - RightRope.com #shorts #knots

What’s Stronger? The Bowline or the Figure 8 on a bight? 👀

More times than not, the figure 8 was stronger than the bowline during our testing. The bowline is a little easier to untie after a load, but the figure 8 is a little easier to remember on the fly!

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[RightRopeOfficial]

The rope is failing where it comes out of the knot due to the tight bend radius and uneven tension the knot applies to the rope. Both are great knots used for different applications. The figure 8 reduces the strength of the rope by about 25% and the bowline reduces strength a little more.

[akeyasa]

Didn’t realise the rope community had internal beef.

[wethepeople]

As a man who weighs 1591 pounds. I'm going with a figure 8.

[MastinoNapoletano]

Bowline knot is for a simple knot that can be tied with one hand that can hold pretty much anything temporarily on a boat. My dad, a sailor taught me to tie one in my pocket with 1 hand. You can't do that with a figure 8 knot. Bowline is a lifesaver knot.

[DTOM]

Test them on the same rope one on each end to see which fails first, then repeat 10x to see if it consistent.

[CraneNut]

Bowline isn’t for strongest knot, its one that no matter how much pressure you put on it you can still easily untie and also in rescue situations you can do it one handed!

[MatthewJRedmond]

I was always told the benefit of the Bowline was that it never moved up or down the rope, was easy to untie, and could be tied one handed, making it very useful in rescue and recovery. However, whenever tying up on the ground to climb, Figure 8 was the way to go due to its characteristics of not weakening the rope.

[tirepressurerob]

The bowline is good because it unties easily after being loaded. Not because it’s stronger than other knots.

[shawarmaman]

Just an honest man showing us some rope stuff....

[krane]

Thank you for "spelling it out." So many content creators forget that specific terms don't always sound clear to those unfamiliar with them.

[sethrose]

Knots have specific uses. A bowline can be untied after holding weight a figure of 8 can't or would at least be very difficult. Figure of 8 makes a great climbing knot because it's easy to tell if it's messed up and less complicated to tie under stress

[AnarchAngel]

Bowline is good not just because it's strong but it's easy to untie after being under a heavy load. It's also easy to tie even with one hand

[Gary-uymr]

The Figure 8 won't slip, and it's much simpler to tie correctly and verify. It's why climbers use them.

[lokiva]

Sort of a misrepresentation, even if clarified in comments.... The line itself isn't strong enough for a drop location human safety lift (5k min), while the difference between knots is trivial relative to other variables.

As several have already noted, a bowline is a pretty strong knot, and is popular because it's easy to untie after a period under load, not because it's the strongest possible. A splice around a thimble may be the other extreme of tediously slow to impossible (in many locations) to create, and not possible to undo and redo repeatedly, yet least degrading of actual line strength compared to most knots.

Likewise, at some point rigging goes to wire cable, except nylon and chain for anchor rodes remains popular for a mix of lateral anchor pull with a load spring above. Dacron double braid for rigging, twist line in many other cases, often nylon, or even polypropylene for floatation, far from strength or abrasion resistance being primary factors. A swivel snap shackle after a splice over a thimble is useful in many cases, but few snap shackles are ideal structurally; just convenient, and strong enough if well chosen to not be failure risks.

No rigging element is chosen because it's best at some single trait out of context.

[jamesswitzer]

The bowline is used for its ability to be untied easily no matter the tension put on it. I’d like to see the test where you run each one to 1400 lbs then try to untie them.

[jasperweaver]

Not worried about taking a rope that close to its breaking strength. However, take them both to 1000 and see which one you can untie.

[CodeMasterCody]

The knot didn't fail it was the cord its self. So another tests with stronger rope or just face the fact they both are good and can hold some weight for sure

[jacobmontgomery]

I really like both knots, the bowline knot is great for marking things underwater with a rope, while the figure 8 on a bight is much better while under load.

[AlexNiles]

Did this really test the strength of the knots? It feels like they both gave out due to the intrinsic strength of the rope and the second rope broke later by chance (perhaps). The "strength" of a knot is redundant if the rope breaks before the former metric can be tested. A true experiment would be loading the knot and then placing it under random vibrations to see when it loosens.

[BreadTrademark]

You obviously paid off the machine. No other way for that biasness