Panentheism vs Pantheism

[slimshadylife]

I like the idea of Panentheism where the universe exists within God but I don’t believe that God has personhood. I believe that the universe exists within God but God is still this transcendent force or energy that exists

[oooo]

Pantheism does not claim that God is impersonal, neither does Panentheism claim God is a personal being; Furthermore, Panenthiesm not only claims that All is in God, but also claims that God is in All

[kevinclass]

St Augustine has a beautiful explanation for Panentheism: can a jar hold the ocean?

[sameerhussain]

Pantheism makes more sense though. Love the fact that Panantheism still makes sense somehow as it's only problem is, it's convince one into believing God is a person without connecting any dots.

[ZxZNebula]

When I took shrooms and after a year of introspection and researching science, I formulated my belief that is similar to pantheism without knowin what it was before… this is triply

[AetosGuardi]

Which position does each Eastern Orthodox Church and Catholic Church hold?
From what I feel seems like you (an Eastern Orthodox) tends to believe in panentheism, am I right?

[thelatterdayarbiter]

So basically Marvel’s Electro vs HP Lovecraft’s Sleeping Idiot?

[al_temuri]

There's no existence except God.

This can be understood in 3 types.

1) If Only God exists then everything is God

This idea is Pantheism or you can expand it a bit in Panentheism too.

Other two are the two interpretations of Islamic Concept of Absolute Onenness of God (Tawhid) or Absolute Monotheism in most purest forms.

2) Only God truly exists, and this universe is just a mere illusion. A reflection of Him that wants to be known.

This Oneness/Unity of Being (Wahdatush Shahood)

3) Only God truly exists, but while everything comes from God, not everything is God itself but rather reflects the Oneness of God's essence

This is Oneness/Unity of Being (Wahdatul Wajood)

[Toshiro]

So essentially the same thing. Only one side of the argument can't get over the fact that humans aren't as oh so special as we were brought up to believe.

[johndevlin]

I think that God DOES have a person hood in a sense. In the Bible it says that “For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God (Exodus 34:14).

[chief_tobias_]

Wait, are you claiming that Orthodoxy is panentheistic?

[naifedicer]

You have failed to distinguish panentheism from classical Christian theism

[ignas]

Well, to say the “universe” exists within God requires further explanation. According to the Christian worldview, God cannot coexist with sin. Sin is not “substance” but the derivation of that which is good, like rot or decay. If we understand God to he “ultimate reality” instead of “extensive reality”, we then see God as both a person AND the actual embodiment of Morality itself.

[K.Bye._]

Alhamdulillah for Islam. ❤
I'm saved from all this BS.