Metamodern Spirituality | A Sense of the Whole (w/ Jeremy Johnson)

Brendan Graham Dempsey talks to Jeremy Johnson about structures of consciousness, mapping the whole, and metamodern spirituality.

0:00 Introduction
2:32 A Trans-Disciplinary Approach
4:17 Seeking the Whole: Gebser
7:39 Seeking the Whole: Gebser vs. Wilber?
10:27 Modern Totalizing: The Limits of Developmental Maps
15:37 Our Meta Moment between Worlds
20:20 Living the Between: A Non-Totalizing Meta-Narrative?
25:47 The Meta-Crisis, The Meaning Crisis, and the Narrative of the In-Between
36:03 A Felt Sense of the Whole: Metamodern Reclaiming of the Non-Modern
48:28 Approaches to Modern Systems Transformation
58:47 Meta Spirituality: Being Present to the Whole
1:15:40 Concretizing Presence: Practices for Meta Living
1:23:24 Living Out Our Composite Natures: Concretizing Multiple Structures of Consciousness
1:38:48 The Whole Beyond Everything
1:41:24 A Myth of the Whole: "God" as Originary Presence?

[MarmaladeINFP]

Jeremy Johnson indirectly speaks of the bundle theory of mind:

"Some of the themes I'm looking at, in terms of aperspectivity and integrality, don't have to do necessarily with complex narrative forms but have to do with like what is the planetary self. In biology, in the sciences we're learning that the self is actually much more a collective thing with the microbiome. So agency is getting all weirdly distributed."

[DarkMoonDroid]

33:26 omg. This is what I've been saying! "Agency is unevenly distributed!"

[mrcurus]

I'm halfway in and think you've both touched on what has been my recent conclusion. A big part of the "meaning crisis" is that we're trying harder and harder to adapt to a bad situation. The way out is to stop adapting to it, and instead to work towards that new mode of living where we can be in the dirt. We're so divorced from how we lived for most of human history and it has grave consequences for our physical, mental, and ecological health (see Civilized to Death by Christopher Ryan).

So many problems can simply vanish if we can re-organize in a healthy and harmonious way. That's not to say it will be easy to do so. I think it's important that we should not begin with the future fully defined, but rather to start where we are and build towards it collaboratively. I suppose another part of the "meaning crisis" is that we need to understand our own civilization(s) well enough to suggest effectively where and how to make these changes.