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Another way without trigonometry :
Draw bisector of angle BAC, AD.
In triangle ACD, angle DAC is x, angle ADC is 2x. So triangle ADC is similar with triangle BAC.
Triangle ABD has angles BAD and ABD equal with x, so is isosceles, so AD is equal with BD.
Lets say AC is y and BD is a. So AD is a also.
BD + CD is 12, so CD= 12- a
From similar triangles we have :
AD/AB = AC/BC = CD/AC, so a/10 = y/12 = 12-a/y > a = 10y/12, and in second equation we have y/12 = (12- 10y/12)/y -> y^2 = 144 - 10y, so y = 8 the only positive solution.
We have all the sides, 8, 10, 12, so with Heron formula s = (8+10+12)/2 = 15
Aria = sqrt (15*7*5*3) = 15 sqrt7

mariopopesco
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You are one of the best geometry instructors on YouTube.

JSSTyger
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Sine rule: 10/sin(3x) = 12/sin(2x), expanding sin(2x) and sin(3x) and solving a quadratic in cos(x) gives cos(x) = either 3/4 or -1/3, the latter being impossible since 2x needs to be less than 180 degrees. Hence cos(x) = 3/4 and sin(x) = √7/4. Area = 1/2 c a sin B = 1/2 * 10 * 12 * √7/4 = 15√7.

thinker
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So great to see how to solve it without trig! Beautiful question and solution

Abby-hisf
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Another solution using trigonometry:
1) Angle ACB = 180-3x;
2) sin(180-3x)=sin(3x);
3) 12/sin(2x)=10/sin(3x);


4) sin(3x)/sin(2x)=10/12=5/6; => cos(x)=3/4 =>
5) sin(x) = =sqrt(1-(cos(x))^2)= sqrt(1-(5/6)^2) = sqrt(7)/4
6) AreaABC = 10*12/2*sin(x)= 60*sqrt(7)/4=15*sqrt(7) = approx 39.686 sq units.

michaelkouzmin
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At 1:00, there is an implication that side AB is the base. Actually, side BC or side AC can be treated as the base. However, PreMath's solution is dependent on using AB as the base, so that is the reason why he chose AB as the base. There are probably other solutions that use the other sides as the base. Also, it is possible that using line segments to divide ΔABC into 2 or more triangles would produce solutions where AB is not used as the base. For example, once PreMath has values for h and a, he could have used CP as a common base of triangles ΔACP and ΔBCP and computed and added their areas to equal the area of ΔABC.

As for the trigonometric solutions provided in the comments, these are great, but the title states that trigonometry is not used.

jimlocke
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This is an application of inmo question 1998 . you can prove that a²= b(c+b)
144=10x + x²
Just use quadratic formula to get x and appy herons formula
Easier than your method

aura_beast
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Quite convoluted but strangely satisfying!

bigm
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Thank you professor for amazing geometry.

phungcanhngo
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I drew a different line, bisecting CAB, meeting CB at D. Then triangles ABC and DAC are similar.
Let w = AC, y = AD = BD, z = DC.
z/w = w/12, i.e. z = (w^2)/12, and y/w = 10/12, i.e. y = (5/6)w
But BC = BD + DC = y + z = (w^2)/12 + 5w/6 = 12, which gives w = 8
With s = (triangle perimeter)/2 = (a+b+c)/2 where a, b, c are the side lengths
area = sqrt(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c))
We have s = (12+10+8)/2 = 15 and area = sqrt(15*3*5*7) = sqrt(1575) = 15sqrt(7).

gibbogle
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Using sin rule, trigonometric means yields a simpler solution, as 12/sin 2x=10/sin 3x, give cos x=3/4, so sin x=sqrt(7)/4, thus the area is

misterenter-izrz
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Area of the square units.❤❤❤ Thanks sir.

prossvay
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You successfully solve it without any means of trigonometry. 😮

misterenter-izrz
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The area of the triangle is (1/2).BA.BC.sin(x) = (1/2).10.12.sin(x) = 60.sin(x). Now let(s calculate sin(x)
We have: sin(x)/AC = sin(2.x)/12 = sin(180° -3.x)/10 in triangle ABC, so 10.sin(2.x) = 12.sin(3.x), or 5.sin(2.x) = 6.sin(3.x)
Then: 5.2.sin(x).cos(x) = 6.(3.sin(x) - 4.(sin(x))^3) We divide by sin(x) which is non equal to 0: 10.cos(x) =18 - 24.(sin(x))^2
We simplify by 2 and replace (cos(x))^2 by 1 - (sin(x))^2, we obtain: 5.cos(x) = 9 -12.(1 -(cos(x)^2) or: 12.(cos(x)^2 -5.cos(x) -3 =0
Delta = (-5)^2 -4.12.(-3) = 25 +144 = 169 = (13)^2, so cos(x) = (5 -13)/24 = -1/3 which is rejected as negative, or cos(x) = (5 +13)/24 = 18/24 = 3/4
Then (cos(x)) = 9/16 and (sin(x))^2 = 1 - (9/16) = 7/16 and sin(x) = sqrt(7)/4 (as sin(x)>0, 0<x<90°)
Finally the area of the triangle ABC is 60.sin(x) = 15.sin(x) (No need to think outside the box).

marcgriselhubert
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After seeing the quadratic equation, I did basic factoring instead of quadratic formula

alster
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I was wrong in taking a=18instead of 8.Corrected myself.Thanks.

shrikrishnagokhale
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Teorema dei seni 10/sin3x=12/sin2x....risulta

giuseppemalaguti
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Using Heron's formula my answer is 40√2sq.unit

shrikrishnagokhale
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Problema maravilhoso. Muito obrigado. Fiz de outra forma, traçando a bissetriz relativa ao ângulo A. Muito obrigado e parabéns!!

professorrogeriocesar
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Could you explain please why you replaced the 2 in the numerator with 1/4😊

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