Does the Bible Identify Jesus as “God the Son”?

[minaguta]

If the "Data over Dogma" tagline doesn't work out, I recommend "Stop Retrojecting the Hypostatic Union!"

[nairbvel]

"Reject that, reject scripture." OK, done. :-)

[oldcountryboy]

You would think an All-powerful God would get his message out more clearly

[raifkolbjornson]

So I checked my two Turkish versions and they go with Tattoo Man's reading (New Intl). Interestingly, one of my Persian versions goes against that reading, very clearly in fact, agreeing with Dan. But while I teach from that version, yet it has often struck me as a bit ... different. So I dug out my Peshitta and bingo, it is the strikingly identical to the Farsi version. Now I know why it seemed weird, it's drawing from the Peshitta. Now to go check my other 3 persian versions. Thanks Dan for this fun exercise!

[dinocollins]

Another fantastic video! Thank you!!! This was my favorite video you've ever made so far!

[davidanderson]

The new pastor of my church is a literalist, univocal, infallible, and inerrant teacher. I’m an old earth creationist and regard many passages in the Bible as mythological, allegorical, or symbolic. I’m really struggling with the sermons right now. Thanks for the teaching.

[VulcanLogic]

Very interesting. I thought they had only manipulated Exodus 21:22 (between the 1978 and 1984 editions, because they'd had time to get mad about Roe). I'm shocked that people who supposedly believe in inerrancy had to make such "corrections".

[michaellong]

I am more and more enjoying your videos as I continue to follow them. I've always wondered about something, and that's change in and of languages over time, and the issue of taking a word in one language from one particular time of having it put down in writing - whether old or current - and finding a pretty much exact word in the translated into language. I somehow don't think that there is always a one to one translation where in both languages the word means EXACTLY the same to both the writer and eventual reader. Not only that, but different cultures have different inferences applied to words, and over time, even those ideas of what a word actually means can change. New words are created and old words disappear, and the meanings change with them. I'm not sure how today we can truly know an ancient language (and this is not to put Dan's work down, just to suggest that people with hardly any linguistic background seem to think they are scholars at understanding ancient words) with the subtleties that exist in any one word, that often change meanings depending on the context, location, and knowledge of both the user and listener. And yet in all hubris, we, today, feel WE are the ultimate result of all of humanity before us, and therefore WE have the ultimate knowledge and understanding of all things. No...we don't . (because the next generation will be even smarter...well, no, they won't either.) Context, education, culture, influences, all affect word meanings, and 'time' tends to affect words the most.

[caroldanz]

Love love love your site. Uber instructive! Thank you so much! ❤️😇

[aspectsreflections]

I’m Greek, and I’ve read the Greek bible. When I hear mono/genesis/theos. I break it down as I just did. Mono= only, single, one. Genesis= born, is born, birthed by… Theos= God, and everything that is identified, not of a man made deity, but life itself (pneuma) spirit. To bring it into context…one born of God, or…born of God, or only God born. Pretty much the 2nd psalm.

[albertadlg]

Hi Dan, what a phenomenal commentary on this subject!

My blinders came off when I started to study the Bible for myself in 2017. I was a trinitarian all my life 😮.

Nowhere in Scripture was Jesus ever identified as God the Father, contrary to the popular believe He said : 'The Father is greater than I...No-one is good except the Father...The head of the house is the man, the head of man is Christ and the head of Christ is the Father. The law says two witnesses must testify. I testify of myself and the Father testifies of me.' When He was crucified, they asked what He was accused of and He said : I am the Son of the Father. When he asked Simon Peter in Matthew 16 : 'Who do you say I am. Peter answered, you are the Son of the Living God. Jesus answered, you did not receive it by blood and flesh, but the Father revealed it to you."

John 1:1 does not reveal that Jesus is the Father. It reveals that He has authority over a certain group of people. The words used is John is theos and theon, the Greek equivalent of Elohim. So in the New Testament Satan is also called theos. We are called by Jesus Theoi in Matthew. In Exodus 7:1 Moses is called Elohim and the council in heaven is called Elohim in Psalm 82:6. So are these subjects God the Father too? No, off coarse not. They just had authority over a group of people (hiarchy). Like Satan is the God of this world for instance.

Then we go back to the Tanack, to see what Scripture (text ) reveal about the Son. It says in Psalm 2 that He is different from the Father. They are 2 beings. The Father and His annointed one. Then you look at Proverbs, once again it alutes to 2 different beings. Who made the heavens and who is His Son. Then you look at Daniel 7, once again 2 different beings. The Son of Man on the clouds goes to The Ancient of Days and receives dominion from Ancient of Days over the Earth. Then you look at Ezekiel 34:24 and 37:24. Once again, you see two different beings. The king (Father) and one Shepard (David). And so it goes on and on and on...

If we look at history, pre Jesus...most of the Ancient regions believed in 3 God's, Babylonia, India, Egypt and even Greece. In the 4th century BC Aristotle wrote, we must worship our Gods in 3, for as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bounded by threes. God says in Deutronomy 6:4 He is one and there in NONE beside him.

This was an invention of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. The thought that Jesus was not God, pre-exsisted prior to Arian. The term was only labeled then and then every one else that challenged that thought, was now a heretic. So by 381AD Arianism died out. We have inherited lies by our fathers and only the true remnant will come out of this lies, and search for the TRUTH!!! Cognitive disonance is a big problem in today's Church Age.

[musikinspace]

That's great, but don't tell that man because he definitely needs to be going to church

[calanm]

I appreciate the passion of the original poster as I once loved this kind of doctrine. I really love the dude’s camera work going from him face on to his POV bible & Sharpie - that’s shooting & editing done really well and v engaging along with the energy.
That said, thanks again Dan

[sunshowerpainting]

are so much smarter than the other youtubers. It's just not fair!

[PreshR-P]

Somehow this video increased my faith just a little bit more. I actually enjoyed this content, education from a different point of view without. disrespect. 👏🏾👏🏾

[toniacollinske]

Ooo Dan stirring up the radical trinitarian pot.

[LionelCartwright]

Thank you, Dan, for continually putting yourself out there, along with your hard earned knowledge. Much appreciated.

[royalcreations]

Love your Data over Dogma approach. It would be even simpler if people took the time to understand simple Aramaic idioms and metaphors, let alone the Semitic culture the Bible comes from.

[jstenuf]

I just have to say that some of these intros where I must listen to such triggering explosions . . . I just can't stay

[AlexLee-tkis]

I see The Main Dan is wearing a Lobo shirt.