MANDATORY MILITARY TESTS?

The United States halted conscription in 1973, two years before the Vietnam War ended, and since then the idea of mandatory military service has remained politically unpopular. But some in the GOP appear willing to make a case for change.

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), a potential Trump running mate, said in an interview that he sees a clear need for measures to boost participation. “I like the idea of national service. And I’m not talking about in wartime,” he said, calling for more Americans to put “some skin in the game.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the onetime Trump confidant who has recently clashed with the former president, suggested that military recruiters need more leeway to work in the country’s public schools and said, “I will take no option off the table” when it comes to addressing the shortfalls, including compulsory service.

Rob Hood, a former official in the Trump Defense Department and in the George W. Bush White House, said he thinks 18- to 20-year-olds would benefit from gaining “a better appreciation for how great this country is.”

“Who gave them their Social Security numbers? The United States government,” Hood said. “There can be the takers and there can be the givers, and once we’re all a bunch of takers and there are no givers, this country will collapse.”

The Pentagon declined to comment.

[GarrttGuy]

I was forced to take it as a senior, got a 90/99 and had every branch breaking down the classroom door to talk to me. Then they saw I was an asthmatic meatball and did a 180

[illustrations.by.sheposco]

Really love when people that have never been in the military think everyone should be in

[nopenopenopenope]

And of course, the same people who want to conscript the youth want none of that for their own kids.

[alexandernewman]

Spent several years in the service, the last several as an NCO. Keeping good order and discipline, maintaining morale, and ensuring the well being of service members is already an extremely difficult job. Add in a bunch of people who don't want to be there and have no choice in the matter and we're all screwed.

[ReaIHuman]

Any politician who advocates for military conscription, should be sent to the front lines.

[weseld]

As a retired Army Officer I am totally opposed to the Draft. I got to serve in the draftee Army and the all-volunteer Army and have seen first hand how the first was worthless for doing its job, and encouraged the politicians to think they had an unlimited supply of men they could throw into any war that they wanted. We now can only fight wars with the cooperation of our citizens, which imposes some restraint on the trigger-happy politicians who have never served and whose sons and daughters would be able to stay home thanks to loopholes their dads would write into the new draft laws.

[turboluck]

Gov: "why is no one joining the military?"
People: Veterans Affairs, pointless wars, no family time, no sleep, the Coast Guard
Also Gov:

Edit: some people may have not seen my reply, there is nothing wrong with the coast guard, I was just joking around

[asianati]

The problem is we did this in the past before and it didn’t work. People who had no interest just flunked it on purpose. You just need to score below a 31 for the Army.

They even went so far as to implement a study system to help those who flunked it, and they would flunk it again on purpose. You’ll just be wasting time and resources.

[thomasheerjr]

As a vet, no... Just no. Conscription works horribly. Stick to an all volunteer force.

[Josh-]

As a former Navy Officer... please do not implement mandatory military service. It was hard enough to keep the people who VOLUNTEERED to do the job on track!

[randomuser_PZKLHK]

The test isn't the worst thing, Im just naturally worried about if it could be used as a stepping stone to push more military mandated things further down the road.

[MsPoliteRants]

Just remember project 2025 is the Mandate for Leadership that the Heritage Foundation releases every election cycle and the one for the 2016 cycle saw a successful 64% of its policies passed by Trump. So you absolutely should be concerned about it.

[FRADAVE]

When I was growing up in the '60's, they used to scare us with stories of the U.S.S.R, like how everyone had to do military duty, or the gov decides your career!
'Nuff said! 😧

[AmbroseArietes]

they wanna require the test but also dismantle the department of education 😭😭😭

[Night-lozf]

Ah yes we young men must be slaved away to fight a foreign war while the older men sit and watch and gain money

[CMT_Crabbles]

So we want people who don’t want to be in the Military, in the Military?

What a great idea.

[carter]

When we were forced to take this in my school, I didn’t read a single question, just made a pattern and then slept for an hour while everyone else finished because I was convinced they were going to use it to draft people in the future. Crazy how things can seem to be exactly as they are and some people don’t even blink

[ellastarburst]

I took the ASVAB voluntarily to figure out what I wanted to do. The test has a page where you can choose how long you want to wait for the military to contact you after the test. There was even a bubble for not wanting to be contacted at all!
The proctors INSTRUCTED us to choose to be contacted very soon after the test. My friend and I looked at each other like 'We know the military does stuff like this, but we didn't expect it to actually happen!'

[kiyoraka]

not to mention how project 2025 also seeks to severely harm if not destroy entirely the board of education, and also abolish the FBI and department of homeland security

[NUCLEARxREDACTED]

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

I dont care that the courts incorrectly found the draft to be constitutional. The whole point of including the term involuntary service was so that the government couldn't, in all ways but name, re enslave African American's with forced labor.

The fact the courts then turned around later and said that as long as its happening to everyone and not one group in particular, it is constitutional despite the amendment saying nothing about race or groups, is one of the biggest failing of any judicial system through all of democratic human history.