Stages of Modification: Explained!

[jeff]

So I went stage 3 accidentally and keep telling people I had a stage 2 😂

[its.Andy]

Stage is an overstatement in my opinion. I hate when I ask someone “whatcha got done to your car?” And they say something like “oh just a stage 1” like bro wtf is that. You gotta be more specific. Just tell me the mods and who makes them🤣

[ShoshinMizu]

dont teach people stages, stages are bullshit. arbitrary numbers made up by companies. you say a stage whatever is a certain thing then you go to another website selling a stage 11 clutch lmfao

[BryanGSX]

If you say stage this or that then I don’t even wanna continue the conversation😂😂😂

[TheAquam]

Just know what parts you are putting on. Hearing “stage 3+++ bro” is often quite irritating.

[shualeaver]

A stage 1 package at my shop is intake filter, back box delete and tune, a stage 2 package is upgraded intake manifold, decat pipes and sometimes injectors, stage 3 is absolutely anything goes to max out what your car can make or jsut throw a couple more parts on and make a little more power

[sloth]

'Stage' and a number means you're a wannabe.

[BBoySewo]

For me Stage 1 is just ECU remap, stage 2 is an upgrade of engine externals (hybrid turbos, intercoolers, intake & exhaust mods, injection system etc.) Stage 3 = engine internals modifications (aftermarket camshafts, forged parts, increasing volume, things like that)

[embimmer]

Stage 1, 2, etc. is just reffering to the Grand Turismo upgrade system, which calls upgrades stages to make it easier to understand how powerful of a upgrade you give a car

[TheCrazzyGuy]

Never had someone ask me what “stage” is under my hood until recently. Some highschool kid & I could tell he’s obviously interested in cars so I broke down what I’m doing to the car rn cuz it’s currently stock. Seemed like a nice kid just tryna learn. Next time I see him maybe it’ll finally have the ZF 5 speed in it. I got all the parts just waiting for my mechanic to get back to me. I’d go to my buddys and do it ourselves but I want it done 110% correctly so I’d rather pay my other buddy 1 days of work to make sure it’s done right & I have a my car back on the roads quick. I’ve never done a trans swap & if I were to do it myself it’s not also my daily. I’ll get a different daily sooner or later but until then some stuff the guy that knows these cars like the back of his hand can do the major things like a trans swap.

[mitchellmcneill]

"Stages" is a term from video games that started in the 90s even though people have been pushing power out of their builds since the prohibition. Every car is different, and really the possibilities are only limited by the builder. I'll break it down like this. You have an idea at first, but you need to plan it out to make it what you want. In order to do that you're going to have to educate yourself a bit on where all the possible points of failure might be during the build. If you go "Stage 1" you know you're not getting everything you want, but you're building the car to a point where you can safely stop without causing a catastrophic failure when you go to start it and run it. Then you stop building and put a few hundred miles on it before moving onto the next "stage" of the build to "prove" your build so far. Stages tend to not generally include brakes, wheels, or suspension; but these can improve safety and track times and should be done sooner rather than later. I hate hearing about stages it only makes me think you had someone else build it for you.

[SaulTheZealot]

Camshaft(s), efficient and lighter driveshaft, fuel injectors, long tube headers, muffler/catalytic converter delete, supporting suspension, intake throttle body size upgrades, added oil catch can, lighter tires/rims, anti-drag coefficient parts or plastic deletes, tune. N/A Stage 3. AND Doing it all yourself <Glory>

[LaptopCivic]

If you say stage I’m tuning out, stages are how shops sell builds to subi boys in my experience. Theres built, boosted, bolt ons, or stock or cammed.

[Lifeofshawnyg]

To think the term of different stages vary depending if it’s NA or forced induction, a stage 1 car is like intake exhaust Tune on a NA car, stage 2 is like throttle body headers and almost full build stage 3 is FBO, for boosted car this term applies more

[cwheels]

Stages are arbitrary and it changes from car to car. It's really only helpful in forums, where a bunch of people own the same car and all know exactly what "stage _" entails.

[PrinceKB]

Do I need to dyno my 2.0 Accourd I bought an intake now I got lights all over my dash after the install what do I need to do

[Ricky_Lafleur]

So with an intake, down pipe, front pipe, exhaust + and tune would that be considered stage 2+ or have I reached stage 3?

[redtail.]

I have a question, maybe dumb but am genuinely curious. I have stage 1. As you said stock with only a tune. Can you remap it to stage 2 without any of these mods? I still want my car to sound quiet but rips whenever i floor it.

[islackerks]

Depends on the platform you're on. For my car it's stage 1 is tune exhaust intake. Stage 2 adds intercooler and DP. Stage 3 is fuel and Big turbo. NA cars are going to be vastly different. Probably same Stage 1 then heads cam for Stage 2.

[mowglig]

The map options for the jb4 are pretty similar in progression as well.