'Your Belief in God is Irrational' (REBUTTED)

In this episode Trent rebuts a video from Rationality Rules that claims it is irrational to believe God exists.

00:00 Intro
00:45 Theism is Irrational?
01:55 Definition of Faith
04:02 Gratuitous Evils
08:54 Theists Must Explain Every Example of Gratuitous Evil?
14:54 Reversing the Modus Ponens
17:27 Failure to Account for All Evidence
18:21 Offering Minimal Theodicies
20:24 Non-Human Suffering
23:10 An All Powerful Evil God
28:30 Conclusion

[rationalityrules]

Hey, Trent. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this rebuttal. I've watched it a few times over, and I'm eager to share my thoughts in a response of my own when I have the time. Thanks again :)

[thatwifeofhis]

10:15pm described as "middle of the night" is evidence of Trent Horn's wholesomeness.

[Silver_is_disappointed_in_you]

Did he just hit us with the " If GoD eXiSt WhY bAd ThInGs HaPpEn" ?!

[Chicken_of_Bristol]

Babe, time to take a break from homeschooling the kids, new Trent Horn video just dropped!

[TheCounselofTrent]

Thumbnail typo fixed 26 minutes after posting with a passable edit in Powerpoint . . . I really need to learn how to use Photoshop 🙂

[sneakysnake]

This rebuttal was fantastic Trent, great job!

[HodgePodgeVids]

When I was a teenager, atheist arguments like his might have scared me as a nondenominational “Christian”. But it’s fortunate that I converted last year to Catholicism and found theologians like Thomas Aquinas, William Lane Craig and apologist like Trent, Testify, and InspiringPhilosophy

[alphaIV]

I found Rationality Rules unwatchable. He was patronizing, insulting, and very presumptuous. He claims that a religious or theistic person would have to think this way or have this opinion, but I could not see nor hear myself in the religious strawmen he tries to build in his videos. It made his channel unwatchable and unenjoyable. I tried many times over the years to watch his content but found it nonsensical, he is arguing against a religious person I have never meet and against religious beliefs I have never held, it makes his content pointless and I think, hateful.

[FlexCathedrafromIG]

I'd really love to see more online debates with Trent Horn vs. Atheists. The one with cosmicskeptic is probably one of the best ever done. Would love to see more

[samanthaannfuchsgruber]

Thank you for responding to Woodford's video with such kindness, reason, and respect! I actually really respect the intellectual work he has done on his channel, even if I disagree with him. Your views on Christianity are so well-rounded and understandable, Trent. In fact, your specific position within Catholicism has actually contributed to my decision to convert in the coming months. God Bless. 🥰

[AnonymousMan]

I'd pray for the man. (The atheist) I was just like him at 1 point. ✝️ God bless you Trent.

[djo-dji]

I was an outspoken atheist from the age of 15 to my early 40s and went through most phases - atheist, agnostic, very lukewarm, undenominational Chistian, then suddenly Roman Catholic after having got very close to Orthodoxy. I know perfectly how atheists think and feel about religion: their ideas are mostly based on limited, flawed knowledge and a powerful flow of contrasting emotions.

[Joker]

I've found that "rational" is a highly slippery word with difficult-to-pin-down definitions. For example, in Economics "rational" means "acting acording to desire". It doesn't mean "wise" or "according to aristotelian logic". Generally, calling something irrational is just calling something generically bad, which isn't always helpful.

[yvonnestyer]

I'm so grateful to God for giving us intellectual geniuses like Trent to help us understand and learn the Truth of things! ❤🙏👍👍👍👍

[berserker]

The whole problem is, he presupposes 'evil', 'logic' and 'reason' without giving even a justification for his position, you can't make ethical claims and divorce them from epistemology and metaphysics. These kind of evaluation things require 2nd order abstractions (thinking of thinking, epestemic starting points, paradigm level consistency, etc.). The thing is how does he know what evil is, let alone recognize, and without knowledge of good and evil, and rejection we are able to chose/reject evil, there is simply no morality. Everyone who uses ought/should is smuggling in imperatives without justification. Thank you Trent for adressing it, this is exactly what I realized as an Atheist, which leads to nihilism if you are honest/consistent with its premises.

[ModernLady]

I used to think it was irrational too. Then God showed me how irrational he wanted me. Even as an atheist I couldn’t explain away the things that happened to me. Then the only rational explanation was for there to be a God.

[gsoifml]

Literally helping my friend through a nasty breakup due to his drinking habits and addictions he picked up at the genius secular institution the state called a "university". His soul is lost and enslaved after reveling in the empty freedoms promoted by the secular atheist culture that promised life without consequences. He has to live those consequences everyday. Real people suffer from their lies.

[thesonder]

The atheist perfectly demonstrates the possibility that gratuitous evil does not exist when he cites forest fires as one. Forest fires are actually do have long term benefits for the forest and therefore the creatures living within.

[originalchilehed]

When someone leads off by demonstrating, as Woodford does, that they don't understand the definitions of the terms they use, they make the work of rebutting them SO much easier!

[bucksfan]

Rationality without morality is like the definition of evil.