Discord Does NOT Want You to Do This...

Did you know you have rights? Well Discord does and they've gone ahead and fixed that for you.

Because in Discord's long snorefest of their Terms of Service, they signed you up for FORCED ARBITRATION. Now when I first heard of this, I had no clue what arbitration meant and if it was even important.

So that's why I've made a whole Discord video dedicated to it. Explaining what Discord's forced arbitration is, why arbitration is generally bad, and how to OPT-OUT of arbitration.

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Subject: Arbitration Opt-Out - [User-ID]
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Hello, This message is to exercise my right to opt out and not be bound by the Discord provisions requiring arbitration.

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Email: [Email]
User ID: [User-ID]

Sincerely,
[Name]

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00:00 - Forced Arbitration
03:13 - Discord's Legal Gauntlet of Doom
04:38 - The BIG issues with arbitration
05:32 - Discord just wants to protect themselves... right?
06:59 - Pros and cons of class action lawsuits
07:50 - Arbitration, good or bad?
10:00 - How to opt out

[zerostudioszx]

Nothing screams "Safe and secure platform" like "You're not allowed to take us to court if something goes terribly wrong"

[Boypogikami]

Roblox did this before, and a 10 year old took 10 million away. History is repeating itself.

[PurpleShorts]

As an australian i'd love to sue discord on someone elses behalf

[Pequod-yviv]

Fun fact. The terms of service are like "house rules" if you break them you're expelled from the club, but have no legal weight or relevance. If you want to class action sue them the ToS have no legal weight or value. You can't sign away your rights. The companies want you to believe so but they can't take them from you.

[AjuntaPall]

My work tried this. They said "Sign this document and we'll add $200 to your next paycheck." Everyone in my department signed it except me. I read it and it was basically signing away your rights to sue. I said "Nope, not going to happen." They told me I had to or I could be fired. I said "great" and I went to a lawyer. They stopped dead in their tracks and backtracked everything, and nobody got paid their $200 either. But... I unfortunately never got fired or got to take them to court. That was going to be fun.

[AceStrife]

I love sudden forced ToS changes that popup when you launch your software that force you to agree or close permanently.

Really consumer friendly.

[TheOnlyName]

mm Discord's legal team must be just thrilled with a sudden flood of opt out emails

[NitroDS]

i dont understand how thats legally alowed
TOS: "ur not allowed to sue me or get banned from discord"
absurd

[wrongthinker]

Corpos have been doing this "you agree not to sue us" crap for decades. Courts throw this out in a breath. Contracts do not supersede law.

[alexlowe]

If they actually do something worth suing, they might end up doing what other large companies like Amazon have done, and quickly retract their arbitration clause. Basically, a lawfirm realized that you can automate 99% of the work required to submit arbitration claims for common issues, and flood companies with thousands of arbitration requests, completely crippling the entire arbitration system, and costing the companies millions in mandatory arbitration fees they promised to pay as part of the arbitration agreement. It's devious, and one of the best ways to fight back against what is a parallel and nonfunctional legal system in the US.

When Amazon tried to find some excuse to get out of the arbitration clause they forced people to sign, the judge said "lol nope". I expect that if there's a real problem, it'll end up getting resolved one way or another. We've got a surprising amount of ways to fight back against illegal actions from companies.

[Tyler-nhop]

The issue here is most of these rules will get voided in court... You can technically put ANYTHING in fine lining for terms and conditions, though courts have the right to choose to not let them be admissible in court. So even if Discord says you agree to not file a class action lawsuit... you can still file a class action lawsuit. Discord does not override a court system. This is like someone killing someone and going "oh you can't take me to court because I said so"... no no no, you are the defendant. You do NOT get a right to choose how your legal proceedings go.

[knghtbrd]

The biggest reason to hate forced arbitration: Tell ya what, we're gonna play a game where I pick the rules, the referee, who I pay to ref all of my games as long as I'm satisfied with how they do it, and there is no oversight or appeal, and it all happens behind closed doors with you agreeing you have to do whatever the ref says, including never tell people about the game after it's over.

[toinouH]

In France it's illegal if I remember correctly: you can not use a clause of attribution towards citizens. You can only against other companies.

[deamichaelis]

Pull a class action lawsuit against the judges that side with the company 97% of the time because that is literally an unbalanced legal system that has probably resulted in millions of dollars of unpaid damages to parties who are most definitely unfairly judged to not get the payouts they deserve.

[xylexrayne]

Thank you for this, Seriously.
I am a privacy, and rights advocate, and I use discord not because I want to; its where everyone I know is.
I had no idea this was a thing, and I am glad I stumbled across your video.
I've just sent my email to them, and BCC'd myself to 2 different emails, a copy of it.

[ComedicLetter]

New legal tactic discovered: decentralized class action lawsuit

“It’s not a class action lawsuit, I’m just representing all of these individuals in a series of definitely unrelated court cases using the exact same arguments, and I’ve charged each of them next to nothing for doing so.”

[AshnSilvercorp]

This isn't just Discord. This is all US tech companies right now.

[kagemori]

I like the employee specific clause of yeah you cant sue us for harassment, abuse, wrongful termination, discrimination or retaliation. Really makes you wonder

[dugangreenhorn]

Well... looks like I'm a little late to the "opt-out" club.

[jgplayz]

i have sent a request to be opted out twice, both time were ignored and no reply, discord is going to end up with a massive lawsuit eventually im calling it