The Cloud is Going to Disappear - The On-Premise IT Roundtable

The Premise: People don't want cloud, they want what it does.Today's episode considers if people want cloud, or what the cloud actually does. In this case, we're looking at if a focus on providing services will eventually make the cloud irrelevant, since people don't really care about it. Or have the cloud providers created sufficient value-add services to solve business problems that make the cloud itself relevant, not just API-driven functions.

[JohnTubeK]

So funny I am watching this 4 yrs later… trying to understand if what was said here came true. As far as I can see Cloud has only gotten bigger and the desire to run business off the cloud has not really changed from 4 yrs ago. Most companies are just smarter about how to leverage the cloud and run a hybrid model if they used to run data centers.

[galleon]

Who came here after the recent trend where people are considering leaving the cloud ?

[rjhintz]

"People don't want 'cloud.' They just want services."
But "cloud" is a useful shorthand for all the services delivered as elastic, self service, pay as you go, with guaranteed levels of security and compliance. Who wants to constantly say all that when one can just use "cloud" as shorthand?

[pwesiti]

Seems as though this aged like milk. Companies are figuring out whether or not cloud makes sense. Some are finding it doesn’t. Go figure.

[zoltannemeth]

Four years later, cloud is still going strong… no one cares about VMs, it’s the cloud native services and automation. some of these guys have missed the point, it’s the ease of automation. The ability to spin up resources take just mins… in every company I have worked in on-Orem IT does not come close to the speed of delivery and ability to manage all of it easily (Automation). Automation is possible on premise, it’s just that traditional IT folks don’t understand it.
Look at what’s now happening to VMWare… looks like only big companies are going to be able to afford it.
The marketing of “Cloud” has cause more issues for everyone than anything else. I dislike the term too, but it’s the on-prem IT model as it has been is continuing to fade. Until these services are comparable on-premises, “cloud” will continue to grow as it has been growing.

[JonathanSwiftUK]

The price is what is going to weigh heavily in the decision. I've spent decades on-prem, and now 5 year almost totally in Azure. On-prem I was in the datacenter hours per week, swapping disks, installing new kit, I was managed SANs, storage switches, VMware, Windows OS. Lots of new services in the cloud, but the cost is ... intense. Having transferred all servers to Azure as VMs we now have to re-develop our systems to use native-to-cloud services. Data centers of your own are much cheaper and flexible. You didn't discuss specifics, say you have a 128GB disk and need a bit more space, on-prem you can nudge it up 30GB, in Azure you have to pay for 256GB. in Azure you have to turn machines off a lot to save money, every decision now has to get finance approval because it involves money.

[JonathanSwiftUK]

This is 5 years old - I wonder if they have changed their minds.

[LowcardTravelandFishing]

Utilities are rarely sexy businesses. The cloud will never go away. Startups will always salivate over moving capex to opex, but the margins will compress as it moves to a biz model akin to a traditional utility w/ SAAS/open-source a la carte competition. *Unlike traditional utilities, cloud providers DO NOT have regional footprint advantages.

[retropaganda]

I was hoping for one intervenant saying "i have no twixtter account"

[bobbush]

security, single point of failure, not free, not secure