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Linus: Pop OS! didn't work because you didn't update
Luke: Mint didn't work because you DID update

ChrisTitusTech
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What I take away from the whole LTT Linux Saga is that both Linus and Luke would really, really like for Linux to reach a point so that they can use it as their "daily driver" OS.

joelcarson
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If it helps, I lost my entire morning at work today because macOS decided the Unity install I’ve been using for months is no longer code signed properly. In order to reinstall Unity through their proprietary hub, I had to turn off Apple’s chip security in recovery mode.

teasysneeze
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Linus impersonating microsoft calling intel is G O L D

devnol
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The thing that is frustrating about Linux is that sometimes I get an absolutely flawless experience and everything works great, but then other times absolutely everything falls apart. Ubuntu has gone down the toilet over the last several years, and updates for most distros is just gambling.

I will say, setting up a restore utility like Timeshift has absolutely saved me pain and suffering at times.

Spirrwell
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Luke makes one of the best points to counter critics: at some point you just want to get work done.

This is a sentiment that I have a LOT, but ironically the least on Linux, my daily driver. I have this problem the most for software updates that my iPhone or Windows PC want to do for me just when I need to get things done quickly. Users don't want to install or troubleshoot a printer the evening before they need to produce an important document; they just want to hit "Print" and be done with it. Neither do I think it's reasonable to spend days getting any kind of system up and running.

crushert
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I'm actually very sure that Luke's claim about things being little slow on Ubuntu isn't flawed. I'm about sure he was running those damned Snap packed progs. They take ages to start, especially in first start.

jothain
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Luke should go dual-booting, so he have backup windows without installing it every time linux does something unfixable in 5 minutes

ОлегСаперенко
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There’s a philosophical difference that I hate about people that know Linux. They value learning about how to set up their computer, and don’t see it as time wasted because they derive pleasure out of it or have the patience for it. That’s no reason to condescend someone—not everyone values the same things you do.

There’s not enough hours in a day for me to want to do that, and I use Linux every day. I get extremely frustrated when I have to fix my system because frankly, I don’t care what went wrong and it’s always something different. Developer time is more expensive than run time, and in the same way, time spent doing work USING your computer is more valued than time spent FIXING your computer. If you drove a car professionally and you had to service it yourself, maintain it when it breaks, and enjoyed tweaking it so it did exactly what you wanted, good for you, I applaud you. However, there’s a reason most people drive automatic cars, most companies outsource the job of servicing and maintenance, and most managers get annoyed if something breaks and costs time. They frankly don’t care that you ran low on oil because the drain plug washer was reused, which can save money when done correctly. They’re still going to be annoyed.

If you can’t understand why people get frustrated when they have to use Linux and you choose to say snarky things to people being earnest in trying, you have to understand that this behavior is insufferable, and is the reason why you feel like you’re shouting into the void. It’s because people have different values, and no amount of condescension will change that. If you prefer the world where I look down on you for not knowing how to service your car, and you look down on me for not knowing how to service my computer, is that the world you want to live in?

alexnguyenle
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I'm 100% certain Ubuntu felt slow to Luke because of those god damn snaps. Unfortunately, Ubuntu shoves snap packaged apps down your throat by default.

SloeJuice
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I really agree on the point with the ads and telemetry in windows... Telemetry in terms of crashes and bugs is fine but I don't want ads in my OS that I paid for quite a lot... Also the pre-installed bloatware like candy crush. How many 40 year old moms use windows for gaming? They use phones for that.

Funny thing is that the telemetry doesn't even work because MS did remove all the useful features from Start menu anyway.

JerziTBoss
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I’m really REALLY hoping Valve can come to the rescue with SteamOS 3 and can sorta take the kinks of Linux out. I’ll be setting up a dual or tri-boot as soon as it drops with windows and maybe mint

fob
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I tried to do it with you guys, but after day 1 of having no issues, the system crashed… when I tried to boot up the OS would not load, stuck with no OS. So I said screw it and went back to windows.

darekin
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Luke, timeshift is your friend. Faster than reinstalling any operating system. That being said there is no point in battling against your os when you have work to do.

locatemarbles
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Windows just works is the essential part of why many folks still return despite Linux being a fun experience.
At the same rate, I really like that Luke honestly gave Linux a try on his workstation.
The worst part about this whole thing however is neither Linux or Windows but rather his shoulder problems :/

MegaManNeo
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I'm testing Pop!_OS on my machine and just recently there was an update. So I click update and it does all the done's and do's to get the update done, it restarts, and I'm looking at windows. For whatever inexplicable reason that thing just went and changed the loading order in bios. I have no idea why, no idea how, it just did that. Linux experience is like jumping out of an airplane, non-stop adventure till' the end. :D

Killerean
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I've taken a break from Linux lately since I got my new display so I can mess with HDR and RT stuff which is pretty much non existent under Linux atm (open-source).
Waiting on major HDR and display control to appear in Wayland. Could take a while.
I still boot to Linux to play a few things which have linux versions, fortunately dual booting solves most problems.
I want Linux to succeed as I hate Windows+MS stuff and love open-source stuff; but it needs a few more key features & more polish, getting there.

PRiMETECHAU
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I'm an experienced Linux user and I would do the same thing as Luke in this situation

Edit: There are people who want to get work done and then there are purists who want to use FOSS no matter what

Edit 2: Too many insecure people in replies, stop taking everything negative

NamasteProgramming
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5:25 Linus's frustration with windows chipset drivers is the best content in years.

francopanigaia
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(Mint Daily Driver) --- Simplest multi-monitor-without-bs fix in linux is just to get everything setup and updated (the correct drivers are important) THEN hook up the extra monitor(s).

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