119: Responding to Your Covenant Theology Comments!

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Jeremy finishes up the four-part series critiquing covenant theology by responding to your comments.

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0:00 Music
1:12 Introduction
2:50 Support Us
4:19 Importance of the Issue
8:39 Download the Table
11:00 Heresy?
12:19 Jesus Reigning as King
21:48 Elect-Gathering as Israel's Restoration
24:29 Limited Atonement Issues
30:21 The Church and the New Covenant
35:25 Forever and Everlasting
37:06 Cov Theo as Replacement Theo
41:31 Waste of Life
43:00 Wrap-Up

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Thank you for another helpful video. I hold to aspects of both dispensationalism and covenant theology and I share some of your disagreements with CT. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos and appreciate being able to consider your views and compare them to what I believe the Scriptures teach. God bless you.

jburghau
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Thanks for addressing my question. If I had thought you would see it, I would've added that I am not decided on dispensationalism vs. covenant theology but lean more towards dispensationalism mainly because I know it better and it makes sense. I didn't even know covenant theology views Israel as God's people even before He gave that name to Jacob😯 I knew replacement theology was wrong, but now I understand better.

ZachdotMiller
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I got quoted on this video! Nice.. Haha, Zechariah 14 is my go to with covenantals because most have no clue that it's in the Bible or no clue what to do with it. Even recently, I was reading a book about the kingdom of God from a post mil and he didn't have Zechariah 14 in there.. A book about the kingdom without any reference to the chapter where the king comes and sets up his kingdom....

Just a heads up about the replacement theology label. Michael Vlach has written on this topic and shows that it has been pretty common up until recent years to call it "replacement theology" amongst the covenantal guys themselves. He provides several quotes. You can find out more info by checking out his article or YouTube video : An Analysis of Neo-Replacement Theology. Keep up the good work!

Lorentio-jx
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Isn’t the second part of the Jeremiah text taken out of context when you replace Israel with the Church?
Also, thank you for addressing my question, I did listen to the broadcast you did with Austin. I found he didn’t do justice to the points that are for it. There was a glossing over and other people commenting said the same thing.

Abraham believed the Lord and it was credited to him as righteousness. Only the death of Christ saved him though. Until the propitiation was made Abraham hadn’t had the application made, hence why Christ lead captives in his train and preached victory to all those waiting in hades, the waiting place.
In affect Christ also paid for the sins them of all those there who hadn’t believed and were already condemned, like the rich man with Lazarus.
If Christ’s payment was universal then these people never had the opportunity and Christ knew at the moment of crucifixion that they were never going to be saved.

I hope this makes sense but you have to make the application at some point of the cross to those who would believe. You end up with Christ dying for pharaoh who’s heart was hardened and already in perdition.

danielwarton
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To clarify on my comment, I believe the New Covenant was inaugurated by Christ’s death, but that it was (mostly) put on hold until the Second Coming. I’m actually a Hyper-Dispensationalist, and there is debate over the meaning of the reference to “a new testament/covenant” in 2 Corinthians 3 by HDs, but we don’t believe the New Covenant mentioned in Jeremiah applies to the body of Christ in any way at all.

As far as the difference between the church called the Israel of God and the church called the body of Christ goes, we believe the former is the church Jesus spoke about during His earthly ministry (consisting of the 12, as well as those who believed the Gospel of the Kingdom back then, as well as those who will believe it during the Tribulation), and the latter was also started by Jesus, with Paul as its first member, and it consists of those who believe Paul’s Gospel.

As far as the “everlasting” Old Covenant goes, it will end completely, even from the perspective you mentioned, when the New Earth begins and the Mosaic law is no longer a thing to be followed, even by Israelites (it will cease when the current “heaven and earth pass away”). This is similar to the way the “everlasting” Abrahamic covenant will also end when this planet does, since there won’t be a land of Israel on the New Earth, at least not the same land that exists today since it will be destroyed with the rest of the planet (instead, there will simply be a massive city called the New Jerusalem).

DrewCosten
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I doubt he would know what exejesus is.😂

mikeyonce
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But Jeff Durbin says you (Dispys) have a negative view of the future, and God's not negative. So you must be wrong as you don't have a positive future in mind - where all alive in the world will be Saved.

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