The Issue With Smart Meters No ONE Is Talking About

The Issue with smart meters NO one is talking about and although a few issues with smart meters is known like signal issues, and differences with north and south signals. The big issue in today's today is to do with the sunsetting of 2g and 3g networks and how your electric smart meter be that SMET1 or SMET2 won't work anymore in 2030.

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00:00 Smart Meter Issues
00:13 North and South Smart Meters
01:11 Octopus Energy CAD
02:16 SMET1 Smart Meter
03:18 SMET2 Meters
04:04 2G Smet1 Issues
04:28 2G 3G Smet2 issues
04:45 Sunsetting 3g and 2g
06:12 2030 Is Far However
07:34 Why not fit 4g and 5g now?
09:25 Future Tech Might Save Us

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[NicolasRaimo]

The Octopus CAD is an alternative to an In-Home Display screen, which sends data from your smart meter via wifi. Both the CAD and the IHD can only work if you’ve got a smart meter which is already connected to Octopus via the smart meter WAN network

[stevensmith]

I was told by an engineer from Morrison data services that people should resist ever have a smart meter for as long as humanly possible

[chris-non-voter]

I've got a meter, it's really smart, it has a wheel that spins at different speeds depending on the amount of electricity I'm using. It also has two digital displays one for econ. 7 and one for Normal (day) usage. I can read this meter at any time of day or night. It's brilliant. I know how much electricity I'm using at any time. I don't need a meter that is anymore clever.

[stevenclarke]

I refuse to have a “smart meter “ fitted, I value my privacy.
I get weekly emails letters phone calls from my energy company telling me that I need to have one fitted!
Fact of life no company does anything for your benefit!

[tosspot]

The real issue no one is talking about with smart meters is control. They have already introduced peak time charging. They will be able to completely control your supply and dictate what you can and can't use energy for. They can say things like 'you can only charge your car between these times and at this higher rate'. They can shut off your individual supply whenever they want. Why do people think this is a good idea?

[peterjones]

They'll have to send the police around if they want me to have a smart meter. I fully expect this to happen at some point. It's important that they can control our supply when rationing is introduced.

[nigelweir]

The problem with smart meters is it is pointless for those who already know that turning off unwanted electricity use . Ps wonder how much energy the smart meter uses.

[comwarrior]

The bigest problem with smart meters is they can bill you for aparent power usage rather than actual power usage... or both...

[PENNYGLEN]

Very interesting video Nicolas - thank you. Glad I've resisted the strong-arm tactics deployed for me to get one fitted. I see nothing but hassle for me to agree to get one fitted for little or no gain to me since I watch my consumption every month anyway and am completely on top of it!

[rickykeith]

I have ignored 'their' coercion and bullying because I am smart enough to work out that they are for their benefit, not mine.

[EleanorPeterson]

I'm in the north of England (Yorkshire) and have had an S-2 meter for several years. No problems so far, and the various changes of supplier have gone without a hitch.

I choose to live a very frugal existence on a tiny budget (£800 per year [eight-hundred quid annually]). My 1913 2-bedroom terraced house has no heating, no refrigeration, and I don't have a mobile phone.

I don't bother plugging in the little in-room monitor display because I'm already using the absolute minimum amount of electricity (280 kWh per year [two-hundred and eighty annually, less than 1kWh per day]), so I really don't care what the meter's getting up to.

Plugging in the monitor wastes precious power which I'd rather use for something useful (like cooking); I can't use any less, so monitoring my hourly or daily usage is pointless.

The abolition of zero-standing-charge tariffs really hit me (and thousands of other small consumers like me) hard: my bill more than DOUBLED overnight. I'm almost at the point where the standing charge [fixed at £0.17 per day until 4th November this year] means that I can't even afford to use NO electricity!

Sigh. Anyway, I'm fairly sure that the shutdowns and frequency changes in 2030 won't affect me because, the way prices are rising, I'll probably have run out of money in a few years and will have asked to have the meter removed and for my supply to be cut off.

They can take their d*mn 'dim' meter back; I'll do without electricity altogether. 😞

[soundssimple]

Smart meters are only smart for the suppliers. Smart meters have limited benefit for a consumer if you only use the energy you need. Why do people need an electrical gadget to tell you to switch off another electrical gadget ? Common sense tells me not to leave lights on, not to leave things on standby, to use electric kettles only with the water in them that you need etc etc etc. I say again smart meters are only for the benefit of your supplier, . They can change tariff during the day / night, they can alter your tariff remotely, they can change your access without you knowing and if you get behind with payments they can cut you off again remotely. They are only SMART FOR THE SUPPLIER. As a footnote, any appliance or gadget that is labelled SMART, is smart for the supplier and DUMB FOR YOU. RESIST THE HARD SELL OF SMART.

[acidthunder]

Anything that is called "smart" is usually not a good idea

[nauxsi]

Smet1 was the reason I have opted out of smart meters. The idea that if they don't work we can turn it off, go back to manual reading. Well we are doing that anyway. Why go through the hassle of these meters. Too much corporate incursion into our homes without our permission.

Now if they said whoever installs a smart meter in 2024 will get 40% off their bill, I might give it another look.

[doublevisio]

It was only when I got a smart meter that I realised that my old whirly wheel meter wasn't measuring my consumption all that accurately. My usage jumped by nearly 15% and I hadn't changed anything except the meter. I think that's why the want everyone to change really, to replace those old "slow" meters. I solved the problem by installimg solar panels. That got 'em.

[sidgb]

Surge price charging. So at peak times you’ll get to pay more to boil the kettle if everyone else is at the same time. Rip off.

[Greguk]

Great helpful video. I have put off getting a smart meter because of all these issues. I’m still not convinced they will benefit me

[richardsandwell]

Smart meters tend to cost you more money, old meters used to only measure actual power consumption, unless it was for industry reactive power was not measured, it was considered to be too small to worry about. Smart meters measure both actual and reactive power, so many devices containing capacitors like drivers in LED lights will cost you more to run with a smart meter. The power companies do not tell you that.

[aylesburynumptydrivers]

There are much.much bigger issues with surveillance meters.
1, remote disconnect that they can use to "load shed" or if malicious hackers get into the network they can turn them all off.
2, they WILL be updated to measure apparent power rather than actual power costing the consumer more.
3, when they have the 1/2 hourly reading they will work out your own personal peak times to charge more.
4, all EVs now have to have a smart charger. They will be updated to use data over mains cable so that the kwhs that are used to charge the car will be reported as road fuel and taxed as such.
5, with an analogue meter if you are unlucky and can't afford the bills for a few months it takes the company best part of a year before they can get a warrant and break in to fit a prepay meter. With a smart meter this is possible within days at the click of a mouse.

[winlinuser]

It's a freaking SHAMBLES - unwanted, useless, pointless. Those responsible for "planning" this should be fired! How much is this multi £BILLION farce costing each customer? I'll