chappell roan keeps doubling down: 'you creep me out' 😬

talking a bit about chappell roan calling out her creepy fans
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[DAngeloWallace]

the only thing chappell has done wrong is not release a music video for 'good luck, babe' 😔

- me, from the main channel

[harasnicole]

I love what John Green said on Twitter: "People say 'she's not fit for fame' but literally no one is fit for fame now. The culture does not allow you to be known and safe at the same time, so you're in a constant state of vigilance and anxiety."

[Prettyflower]

It’s strange to me that women always have to sugarcoat things to not offend people. The language Chappell used was straight forward and assertive, and people got offended. Good for her

[zPencilPirate]

"This generation is so soft" Like stars in old Hollywood weren't constantly overdosing on drugs and killing themselves from stress

[leijaile]

I think this is a good metaphor for people who don't understand: Imagine conventions. It's normal to ask cosplayers for pictures there and it's a part of life, UNTILL they take their costumes off. Then if you follow then home still asking for pictures, it's weird af.

[user-e]

The idea that Chappel Roan isn’t cut out for stardom is reminiscent of women being told they’re not cut out for male-dominated fields because they won’t tolerate being harassed and assaulted. Telling women to accept their lot in life and to not try to improve anything doesn’t sit right with me.

[ConvincingPeople]

Björk got sent a nailbomb by a crazed stalker who was angry about her dating a black man and got dragged for punching a paparazzo who had been tailing her for weeks and tried to approach her son. People are so shockingly entitled when it comes to celebrities, particularly artists and performers, that it seems that they forget that they are human beings capable of fear and pain. Good on Chappell for drawing a line in the sand about wanting to be treated like a normal human being.

[rileysmith]

I think the thing that pisses me off so much is that one person who commented that this is just the way that things are and it won't change anytime soon - like you could be that change! You could start acting differently around celebs! You could pump the fucking breaks and respect these people's boundaries! Be the change you want to see in the world etc

[trippingsands]

yes she is extremely famous. yes she tried to get famous. but she is 100% allowed to say no to literally anything

[hamburgeoisie]

In 2006-09 when Brittany Spears ran from paparazzi, crying and breaking down, people said "she shouldn't have chosen this career if she can't handle the public attention."
Across the late 90's and early 00's when Jessica Simpson, Anna Nicole, Kelly Clarkson, America Ferrara, Jennifer Hudson were all relentlessly fatshamed, people said "they shouldn't have chosen this career if they can't handle the public attention."
In 2006 when Pete Wentz's nude photos leaked and legitimate reporters were sharing them everywhere, including to his family, friends, and loved ones, and he expressed embarrassment and a desire for privacy, people said "he shouldn't have chosen this career if he couldn't handle the public attention."
To this day, when celebrities ask people to not show up at their private homes, people say "they shouldn't have chosen this career if they can't handle the public attention." In 2016 a man set himself on fire and then took his life on the lawn of Miranda Cosgrove, making her stay with her parents for days on end because she could not feel comfortable and safe in her own home. Selena Gomez had a stalker break into her home after she repeatedly identified him as a threat, and she felt so unsafe she sold the home and moved.
"Celebrity" and what fans "deserve" are social constructs. They change with time. The only way they change is if they're called out... or someone dies. I prefer Chappell Roan's approach.

[stewieismyhomeboy]

Rebecca Schaeffer was shot and killed on her front porch by a fan. Chappell is right to set boundaries for her health and SAFETY

[TheVideoChatter]

Celebrities have been killed by crazed stalkers. That’s how we lost Christina Grimmie (Rest in peace) 🕊 Chappell has every right to protect herself, and anyone who’s angry at her over such a thing is super weird.

[alexahunter]

My favorite line was “this is not a group conversation” because someone’s personal boundaries are not up for debate. No one cares about your opinions on it. A human has a right to say no.
Period. End. Fin.

[Olivia-tlle]

john lennon was literally killed by a crazed "fan". he was just walking out of his apartment building with his wife when he was shot on the street. it is THAT easy, and i don't think anyone that hasn't reached that level of fame should tell her how to feel.

[nokoshadung]

When you get to see her at a concert, you get what you pay for. When you buy her merchandise, you wear it and you got what you paid for. When she entertains you on social media, you get what you pay for. That's it. That's how far the exchange should go.

If you expect her to accept your demanding access to her personhood and bodily autonomy, you're out of your mind. Her giving you her autograph, taking a picture with you is a bonus, not an entitlement. This is especially crazy considering how many celebrities have literally died from their fans.

[pimkinn]

i cant believe chappell is getting so much hate just because she wants to be treated like a human

[doierry]

John Lennon was shot by a fan, Christina Grimmie was shot by a fan, Selena was killed by the president of her fanclub… It’s not unreasonable as a celebrity to be cautious of fans ESPECIALLY if they’re harassing and stalking you or your family.

[sonderfulsable]

consent is something that should NEVER be taken from someone.

[bdubs]

As an artist, she's already sharing A LOT with the public, way more than most of us ever will. Musicians do give a lot to listeners, and often set up events where meet and greets can happen. When they're off the clock, let them be. Would you want randoms asking for hugs at your job? Or demanding you do work while you're on your own time? Let them be people, and realize they don't know who you are, despite being able to know a lot about them.

[Halos]

it’s crazy how normalised the entitlement from fans is. if you actually think about it, a lot of fan culture really isn’t normal.