What really happened between Noah & Ham? Genesis 9:20-25 Leviticus 20:11 #bible #god #jesus #christ

[TN-puyz]

doesn't make any sense ... ham slept with his mother but the brothers went backwards to cover their father without looking at Noah's nakeness?

[cliftondavidpowell]

Incorrect. If Ham had lain with Noah’s wife he would’ve been put to death as stated in Leviticus. Rather, he was cursed.

[Tyguy]

I don't interpret it that way, nakedness is shame, like how Adam and eve eat from the fruit of the tree of knowledge they were ashamed of their nakedness and covered themselves with leaves, I think it's pretty basic Ham saw his father in a shameful state and instead of covering his father's nakedness (shame) he instead went and told his brothers, where his brothers did they right thing and looked away from his nakedness and covered him to keep his dignity and protect and honor their father by not letting others see him in his shame.

[HPPosavinghers]

Leviticus 20:11 is interpreted wrong here. To sleep with your father's wife is to uncover your father's nakedness as the wife being one with the husband and in essence violating your father's nakedness. This plays into Gen 9:25 where to do so (uncover your father's nakedness) would make one cursed. 1 is not a result of 2, 2 is a result of 1.

[Editheveryday]

Well, that sound like it could be the meaning considering Leviticus. However, how do you explain “a blanket covering up their father’s nakedness” unless he was physically naked or does the walking backwards and blanket have symbolic meaning in Greek and Hebrew? Not sure on the validity of this claim so imma research it for myself. I’m sure Holy Spirit will give me revelation on the true meaning of this claim. I trust God that He hears my call for knowledge 🌺

[asmrgreen]

Y'all think he's lying, but you need to read this chapter along with the ancient hebrew translations and context. Read your bibles, don't gloss over them.

[CushiteChristian]

Brother Cerebsound please don't believe these lies hateful people tell us about Ham.
Ham was saved from the flood and chosen by God to repopulate the earth so we could be here today. Gods undeserved forgiveness on our Ancestor is why we exist today, these people just want you to have self hatred but Ham was a good man.

[MrKev]

If Ham slept with his mother, why wasn’t he put to death???🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️
According to wut u jus read…
Stop telling lies!!!! Why did the brothers walk in backwards, did they cover their mother or dad???🤦🏽‍♂️
Ham sin was just Walmart it said, he looked upon his dads nakedness🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️
Stop Lying🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[richvestal]

It's called an idiom. Ancient near-eastern writers used them often but in modern parlance its a generally forgotten art.

[laidback...]

This is how lies get started.
Someone who speaks with NO understanding.

Mr Blac can you please give one verse that says anything about a mother in all of Leviticus that is dealing with Gen.9:21-29

We can't go around creating stories to appear to have understanding. Show the verse that proves it was Ham's mother with a verse that says thy mother. 🤦‍♂️

[WarsunGames]

That isn't what happened. Let me tell you the story from what i was a kid an READ that story.
Genesis 9:20-23 Complete Lies. The story was changed in 1980 Ham wasn't even in the story.

Canaan was on a dare to steal something from Noahs tent. he snuck in stole Noahs blanket an ran out. He was Caught by Shem an Japheth and they took the blanket an backward covered their father.

But did not punish Canaan. Noah came out said to Shem an Japheth do you have anything to say to me? An they said no. So Noah cursed them. HAM WAS NEVER THERE! Someone Changed the story.

An i blame Christians. Because they are saying now. HAM in general should be servant to Shem an are trying to say All of Africa should be in service to White people because of the story.

WHICH THEY CHANGED to sound like HAM committed a crime. Bearing False witness. This is why people say saying This story no longer makes sense. Or course it doesn't!! Some one changed it!

[jeremy]

I haven’t heard this before 🤔 really interesting interpretation, this makes sense and I’ll have to look more into this. Also love the zildjian hat, I’m a drummer myself

[Shermoose]

Interesting take, worth considering. May God bless this community to understand his Word

[Qohelethful]

In all fairness Noah’s wife at the time might not have been Hams biological mother.

[minermike]

I hadn't heard this before but it's as reasonable of an explanation as I've heard yet.