Alien Covenant ACTUALLY Explained (With Real Answers)

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Real, complete answers to every question about Alien: Covenant! Why did the Engineers create us? Why do they want to destroy us? Why is everyone in these movies so STUPID?

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I really wish we got to see Ridleys true sequel to Prometheus. I know a lot didnt enjoy the film but i really enjoyed the lore of Prometheus and its a shame we didn't get to see his real vision of what the sequel should have been.

jubed
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Dallas: Okay, Ripley, we're clean. Let us in.
Ripley: What happened to Kane?
Dallas: Something's attached itself to him. We have to get him to the infirmary right away.
Ripley: What kind of thing? I need a clear definition.
Dallas: An organism. Open the hatch!
Ripley: Wait a minute. We let it in, the ship could be infected. You know the quarantine procedures: 24 hours for decontamination.
Dallas: He could die in 24 hours! Open the hatch.
Ripley: Listen to me. If we break quarantine, we could all die.

Alien was a smarter movie than Alien Covenant

NotTheAntichrist
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Interesting fact I noticed; Ridley Scott says the "black goo" is Pandora's box. The famous "Pandora's box" is a mistranslation from the original Mycenaean - it's actually "Pandora's Jar", jars that would look much like the ones used to contain the "black goo"

bustabenson
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Covenant should have been Elizabeth Shaw exploring the galaxy looking for the origin of mankind. I’m still upset this didn’t happen!

buttonman
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I wont lie. I find myself watching Prometheus and Covenant quite often but just for David, I hope there will be one more film to complete its story.

RoodeMenon
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Exploring an alien world with no bio-suite is just stupid, , as the movie clearly depicts. Good writers don't need to strain common sense to create horror scenarios.

debyton
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I find your explanation of the Captain's action with the egg to be insufficient.

Moments before he was given a tour by david, he had witnessed David's total disregard for human life. The Neomorph was chowing down on a human and the captain witnessed David communicating with it. He also noticed that David gave no shits whatsoever about the fact that it just ate someone and the captain was ready to shoot him on the spot.

After seeing David's little shop of horrors, any reasonable person would have known that this David 8 model could not and should not be trusted. It really didn't make sense for the captain to trust David's word when it came to the egg. It really was stupid.

Granted I really like this movie, but that scene with the captain in the egg is absolutely moronic.

demongrenade
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I always thought the “stupidity” of the characters in Prometheus and Covenant was just meant to be exaggerated allegories of the worst aspects of humanity.
It always seems to be saying to the audience that, when faced with external threats, humanity’s downfall will come from it’s own shortcomings before anything else.

safeysmith
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"What's with the big head in the Big Head Room?" Where else would u store it? The small leg room?

TheKillingJoker
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if Star Trek taught me anything its that ion storms will ALWAYS create communication interference for plot reasons. ALWAYS.

gillriet
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David is a fuckin' terrifying villain.
So calm and logical yet impulsive and insane.
He was so...human.

RangerHouston
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I actually really enjoyed Covenant, but would have loved to see what he had originally intended. Also sad that we're not getting a third film to tie it all up. Really wanted to see what David ended up doing, because he was so scary, and such a great villain!

NikkiLove
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Omicron Persei 8 is a planet from futurama the planet they were trying to colonize is Origae 6 how did nobody catch this

noahraskin
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"Oram hasn't seen an Alien film so he doesn't know what is inside the egg" But he HAS seen a lot of his team killed in the most graphic bloody way by a number of extremely aggressive intelligent and efficient killing machines. He HAS just seen David show no emotion to another crew members head floating in a sink. He HAS seen a host of gruesome biological experiments/autopsies in David's study and he has no idea who David is or how dangerous or crazy he might be. He HAS seen literally thousands of charred bodies littering the city. Oram shows no judgement or even any self preservation skills.  Kane was an adventurer not a captain, that's why he is seen champing at the bit to be in the away team. Also at the point of looking in that egg there had been no indication that there was any real danger. The place was essentially as dead as a cemetery, no piles of humanlike bodies, no vicious aliens, no dead crewmates cluttering up he place, no blown up spacecraft. Comparing Kane to Oram without considering what happened to them both  immediately prior to looking in that egg is a specious argument.

FX_productions
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There was a translation of the Engineer writings on the walls, saying that the mural of the alien was a deacon that they worshiped. Engineers were a dying race, who lost the ability to procreate, and then comes along this being that bursts out of one of their own after they were impregnated by some creature. So, they used it's blood to create new races at other planets to propagate their DNA. And comes back to check on them every few hundred years to check if they were on the right path (their way of life). There was too much war, so they took one child back to eden and educated him before sending him back. But when the human they sent to guide the mankind was crucified, they wanted to wipe humanity out, thinking it was a lost cause. However, they stopped their plans when humans started a new religion around the child they sent to educate others.
And the reason the Prometheus Engineer got so angry was because of Weyland, who showed that the humans still had not changed from their destructive, selfish ways. So, what are your thoughts on this?

DawnOfAngel
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These films aren't trying to remake the earlier ones. They are full of deep ideas and are exploring various themes. The storytelling is more complex, but they make you think, as not everything is handed to you on a plate. I really hope this trilogy is concluded.

nicknewton
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Covenant seemed like a HUGE wasted opportunity. I was, and still am, a fan of Prometheus. It was beautifully shot and I liked Shaw despite the way she and (everyone else) was written. It expanded upon the Alien universe without narrowing it down too much. Unanswered questions can build mystique. Unfortunately, Covenant, attempting to "fix" what Prometheus laid down, actually threw most of what made it compelling under the bus, then backed over it again and again.

jackkoffin
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A lot of your arguments are based on content outside the movie (The crossing, Ridley interviews, the wayland promo site, etc). The frustration most people have is these things should of been addressed to some level in the movie.

Xyos
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Actually, the idea of David (a human-made android) being the source of the genesis of the xenomorphs makes a kind of sense for me: In the extra footage features of the DVD, it is revealed that David was in communication with the company. He was telling them what he was doing and they approved. The idea that the one thing that brought about the existence of such a monstrous and dangerous creature was corporate greed, makes perfect sense to me.

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I find the argument that because "x movie is a horror movie, so we should expect people to make poor decisions" to be a horrible argument.

A good writer would endeavor to create a plot where threat and risks are sophisticated enough not to force the characters into being woefully inept for the purpose of creating drama.

The idea that this cannot be done betrays a lack of imagination and intellect on part of whoever makes the argument.

The spacesuit/helmet argument is a perfect example of this.
Even if everyone wore helmets all the time, it shouldn't be super difficult to have a character get into a situation where the glass on the helmet cracks or whatever.

More to the point of the video:
In Star Trek nobody wears helmets because Star Trek shows an extremely advanced humanity that has the scanning and medical equipment to deal with pretty much any disease or airborn pathogen imaginable.

This is not true for the Alien universe as should be apparent since the scanners fail to detect things in ways inconsistent with the promo material, and while I think this critique holds true for the older Alien movies as well, the idea of breathing in the air on a foreign planet before extensive research has been done on the bacteria and viruses possibly present, is a really, really big stretch.

(Also dude, when you have to reference external material to make sense of issues in the plot of a work you've already lost. A good story should work on its own without bandaids from supplementary material)

It is bad writing. You don't get to brush that aside by saying "lol, it's horror man, whatever."

The only thing such a response says is that you think it's okay for horror movies to be poorly written because they generally are, which I mean...

Okay? You're free to think that, but the fact of poor writing remains regardless.

hian