Why Indonesian Women Have a Different Mindset🇮🇩

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Indonesian women have a different mindset compared to Western culture. And these different mindsets between Indonesians and Westerners can lead to frustrating challenges at times. The solution is to learn to adapt and to stay patient. You need to be willing to learn about Indonesian culture if you want to understand how Indonesians tick.

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I agree with him as an Indonesian. 11 out of 10 people will not be punctual here, which is a super annoying bad habit, no excuse or sugarcoating

ryanardan
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18:40
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
Matthew 6:34

saintlukend
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No. For example in job interviews. Indonesian people can be very on time. Or in the meeting where the big boss is present. Not so much when you met with your buddies. For a girl who thinks she is preety? They are intentionally want you to wait for her. To test how far you willing to simp for her clamp. For me? It is like 15 minutes.

jokebapack
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My European husband totally agrees with you on a lot of basic things—like being direct, super logical, and always on time. While I'm Indonesian, the punctuality is a big deal for me too (no 'jam karet' here 😅). He also finds that being married to me has made him more calm, relaxed and accepting, so we balance each other out perfectly.

About the explaining things bit, do you think it could be a language barrier with your Indonesian colleagues? In my experience working in a multinational company, English is the main language. If people aren't confident in their English, it can lead to a lot of 'I don't know' moments. When I worked in a national company back in Indonesia, almost my Indonesian colleagues were usually very active in discussions. But you're right, some people stay quiet to avoid saying something wrong and embarrassing themselves. It's all about saving face, which sometimes has good intentions behind it :)

Thanks again for sharing, and I wish you lots of happiness with your Indonesian girlfriend! :)

sintiyagorczyca
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After 6 years living in various parts of south east Asia, I still sometimes struggle with the culture of face. Especially when it appears to make bad behavior easier by creating an environment where there are no consequences. But of course there are consequences, western people just don’t see them easily.

binkysteaver
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I am watching you kenya africa and i like how to compare cultures and i like your topics, the more we learn culture the more we understand each other.

Waa_yaab
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Hallo Marcel.
Grüße aus Serbien.
New subscriber. I started watching your videos several days ago after YT algorithm suggested it.

No clickbait BS, no outrages claims, and straight and honest talk compared to PH anglo (UK/US/CA) expats.
You sold me on Indonesia (there are many other reasons you don't talk but they are related to RS - ID relations), and I gave up from PH for the various huge BS reasons. For example, PH bureaucracy is insane on so many levels.

Related to your video:
1) Saving face is from Confucianism - miànzi. It's ingrained in East and SE Asia. Anybody who goes there for anything semi-serious reason(s) should learn about it.
And Confucius is for them is like what is Aristotle for Western or Plato for Eastern Europe.

2) Rubber time - it exists here, too, and I'm guilty of it :/. It's mostly related to non-business things. Of course not everybody suffers from it, but many do. I could write on and on...

DukeofSerbia
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One of the best blogger out there...If you are not "open minded and flexible "stay home and dream about traveling...😊

danapolhac
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Seharusnya kita orang Indonesia harus biasa menepati janji dan waktu yang sudah ditetapkan. Saya juga sering jengkel kalau harus nunggu lama aka jam karet, sama dengan buang waktu. Jangan dibiasakan dech buang waktu orang lain. Kalau di latihan militer telat 1 menit aja bisa kena hukuman. Sewaktu saya kuliah, telat 1 menit harus diganti kerja bengkel x 5 jadi 5 menit. Kalau telat 1 jam dikali 5 jadi 5 jam .

larasatipaulana
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aaah rubber time, the crux of indonesian problem and especially to women. if u asked the reason as a woman myself I had no idea why but some woman had it worse than the others, though u cannot avoid it but there is some way to minimalize it:
1. when you about prepare ur self, call ur gf asked if she already wake up or did she already prepare herself also.
2. before u got out, u called her again telling her you about to leaving and u will be arrived in 15 or twenty minutes at the location (u don't have to be in hurry, take ur time to give her some leeway)
3. when u arrived immediately called her, tell her u already arrived and asked where is she right now and when she will be arrived.

And that's how i arrannge meeting with all my friends (female) all the time and they do the same thing to me 😂

blowfish
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While "jam karet" is definitely a thing, but I only really found it was an issue with parties where many people were invited - in which case being fashionably late is not a big deal.
Depending on how well you know the woman, there's a few thing you can do to avoid being stood up. First, always invite her to something you're already doing. Don't go out of your way to organize something especially for her. That way if she doesn't show, it doesn't matter, and you communicate this to her. You were already doing your thing and if she doesn't show you don't care. Secondly if you get stood up, don't bother calling her back to complain. As messed up as it is, some women get a kick out of standing guys up and making them wait to see if they get upset - maybe to test how much the man cares. It's childish, and while I'm not saying that's what happened here - depending on how well you know the woman it's a definite possibility.
By doing the two above, men can short circuit this behavior. In any case a woman needs to invest her time in a man and make an effort for you, so you actually want to challenge her with opportunities for her to go out of her way to show you that you should care about her. If you make everything too easy - like most people - they take things for granted.

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Nice video and opinion. totally agreed 💯. I am Indonesian, and this "Jam Karet" things, even for me it's super annoying, im kinda on time person, so every time i had a appointment with my girls/friends/colleague, if i show up first, on time and they will come VERY late, they will making joke like "it's my fault waiting very long, why i am TOO on time blabla".
Among indonesian, if you are really on time, for some ppl its kinda weird. 🤷‍♀️

itsme_tya
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How rubber time starts:
3 people agreed to meet then on the day they promised to meet, person A arrived on time, person B arrive 10 minuter later, person C arrived 30 minutes late.
Learning from experience, the next time those people meet, person A had learnt it's okay to be late a little, whilst person B learnt it's okay to late. And the cycle continues & it could get worse over time.

I used to be a punctual person. But over time I learnt that when it is hang out time with my high school friends, I do not need to be punctual because at one time I had to wait for them for 3 hours....

griffinina
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What is the city name your filming in, Almost looks like Miami but it’s not

GeorgeWatson-xc
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Great subject. Great video. Why do people do what they do? — They're testing your limits.

tsmoe
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Bro.. I think this jam karet is not a cultural or nation thingy, its more like individual problem. My bf is canadian and not punctual at all. Also i met this type of clients a few times and they are not even Indonesian. 🤷‍♀️
Btw, I saw buildings on the background, u in kuningan area or is it bsd?

LIA-LHS
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Deciding what to eat is a headache for me too when hanging out with friends.

When it was a large group, say 10 people, we agree to go separately for the meal but we let each other know where each group are going to eat so we can roughly calculate how long it will take. We made promise to meet at a vertain spot after meal.

If it was just 2-3 people hanging out, I ended up giving the suggestions before my friends unanimously agreed where we are going to eat 😅😅😅

griffinina
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Hello. For me this one was a awesome topic. 👍😍TNX on explanations. I have a questions and good topic: Interested me does asians have a body smell (in generally, without rasism ok!?)? How white people really smell to asians people and how asians smell to caucasian people (good, bad, or need parfume)?
P.S. I watching your cannal because I thinking about moving in asia, so you have a great experience and...keep on with videos ❤💯👍

franganmacloud
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Me : Mau makan apa say..?, ,
GF : Terserah.
Me : Okey, kita cari Seafood, ,
GF : Ga kepingin seafood.
Me : Okey, klo ayam bakar gimana..?, ,
GF : Gak mau ayam bakar.
Me : Vegan Burger..?, ,
GF : apaan tuh, gak ah.
Me : okey kita puasa aja.
GF : Tapi aku laper
Me : Jadi mau makan apa..??
GF : Terserah

Hate that from Indo woman.. Indonesian men actually making a funny meme over it.
Wonder if Filipina women are like that too..??

kudajingkrak
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Agree with you: Asians aren’t confrontational and it isn’t self centered but goes in both ways.
That’s also why they avoid to be right on time.
Punctuality is why everybody respects Germans.
It’s in fact more Prussian than German but anyway.
I also feel disrespected when the family of my GF always arrives late on dinners. She quickly got that about us and I suspect she like it and even that’s also why she was looking out for foreigners because she hates lost time.
Very different from her procrastinating family.

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