Chaplain Berates His Brothers #warhammer #warhammer40k #lore #explained

A Space Marine Chaplain Berates His Primaris Astartes Brothers in the Warhammer 40k setting

[CMDMON]

They aren't trained properly. They don't do time in the scout company and move into the devastator company, the normal progression. They don't get to watch and learn. Literally thrown into the fire.

[vexxama]

“You fight like neophytes”

“Ok, so train us and let us gain experience?”

[toasterroaster]

To be fair on the primaris though, aren't they essentially neophytes? They were put in cryo 10, 000 years and then put straight into power armour and dropped into war zones. They have no 10th company guidance. It's as much a failure of the commanders (including the chaplain) not to recognise and compensate for that. He's their spiritual leader, he should be giving them that unified sense of purpose during the fight, not bitching about it's absence once the fight is done.

[ravenguard]

Cawl's batch of Primaris are essentially like the Clones and Jedi in SW during the First Battle of Geonosis training simulations and lessons from the book can only help so much in their inexperience. At least for the Primaris the firstborn veterans are more likely to adapt their initial failures compared to the Jedi.

[iceydicey]

The primaris are basically just a rushed product of fresh conscripts. Hell the guardsmen train theirs faster and better

[Norrikan]

This just in: Chaplain helios discovers that almost green recruits aren't veterans. News at 11.

[gamechanger]

They fight like Legionaires. Whereas modern 40K Space Marines especially the Ultramarines fight in a similar manner as the Sons of Horus or Raven Guard(after the Dropsite) where they use precise decapitating strategies.

[DrXaiver]

Massive dick move to basically call them newbies after winning the fight for them because they’re literally brand new. But the last portion of that speech was right, they are precious and must do their absolute best to tay alive as long as possible…. Until you look the trailers with the ultramarines where they basically run into on coming necron lasers 💀

[gonzalogamarra]

They ARE neophytes, the chaplain has centiries of experience, is easy to talk in that way to people with cero experience

[EmonWBKstudios]

Once again, higher-ups blaming their failures on the people below them.

[therecklesswarlock]

Being able to turn first borns into primaris was a pretty great thing by cawl. It really streamlined fighting prowess and legion strength by having both the experience of a first born, and strength of the primaris.

[Matizicov]

They basically helldiver'd primaris marines into their first real fights and are surprised they didn't do as well as their first born counterparts? Shocked. Shocked I say

[thevoidofyore]

Leandros would say something like this.

[Cleverman]

A case of tough love. The older brother sees the relative inexperience of his younger brothers, and does not pull his punches. They have much to learn, and no time to do it safely. Unfortunately the primaris do not have the luxury of going through traditional training. So they will have to learn how to swim in some very dangerous water. Many will die, those who do not will eventually surpass their older brothers.

[filipmaly]

"So, for my first battle I did OK?" - Primaris Space Marine nr. 8224

[Yeshuah]

Correct me if im wrong but didnt later primaris recruits have better training?

[no_one-]

Even with new gifts it is pointless to reprimand the new primaris, when they had no real training. That chaplain was out of order.

[Makorze]

The problem the primaris are having in here is the pycho-indocrination has yet to firmly kick in - Ragnar Blackmane had the same issue when he was a newbie.

Thanks to the knowledge implanted in his brain - he knew EVERYTHING about his bolt pistol. How to fix it, how to care for it, all the techniques to improve his aim. Could he actually do it? No.

He couldn't aim at all because while his mind was prepared, his body was not. The sound of the gun, the kick of its recoil, the physical senation of reloading under pressure - that kind of experience can only be lived.

[Ian_Levitski]

Firstborn astartes are skilled as hell, that is the point

[Joseph-mwrl]

They fight like neophytes on ultra tren