A History of Dragon-types in Competitive Pokemon

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the way I see it, kyogre is surrounded. What’s under the water? That’s right, more earth

oscarsullivan
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gen 5: drop a draco!
gen 6: drop a drac- oh, it's clef

gretchling
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waiting for a Magnezone clone with the ability "Fairy Pull" to appear in Gen 12

BatmannotBruceWayne
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To be honest, I kinda like when Dragons where so OP, It seemed right that the most powerful type in lore was the most powerful one in competitive.

ishierrogamer
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I wonder if baxcalibur with it's move that is literally better outrage will bring some of the terrors of gen 4-5 back (once everything else broken is banned obviously)

kirbymontrey
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I wonder if they could have nerfed the dragon type in a less ham-fisted way? For example, they could make ice resist dragon, and it could probably be given a thematically appropriate reason (a cold-blooded dragon might not be able to launch an all-out attack on an ice-cold opponent, similar to how a fighting-type can't launch a full-force attack against the toxic skin/envenomed barbs of a poison-type). It would provide an additional dragon resist, while also giving ice a relevant resistance. On the other hand, fairy's complete immunity to dragon makes the least thematic sense out of any immunity. A resistance makes enough sense, but there's no real justification as to why draco meteor does 0 damage to clefable.

I suppose the main thing that irritates me about the fairy type is just how blunt its inclusion is, and how it basically stole the "dragonslayer" role that justified ice's uniquely bad defensive typing while ice got nothing to compensate for it.

tl;dr: The ice type was done dirty.

emmetstanevich
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I really appreciate this as the long-awaited continuation of the History of Ice Types all those years ago. Great video as per usual. Love when you make podcast-esque content.

Sweetjellydonut
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I think Gen 3 hit the best sweetspot. Gens 4 and especially 5 are overwhelmingly dragon focused, but past Gen 6 the type rides the razors edge of being completely useless and completely dominating in a way that tends to make using Dragon moves unfun. Which is definitely better than Gens 4/5 to me, but is also just a little sad.

genuineangusbeef
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Great video but, contrary to what you say, I clearly remember an era in DPP when Kingdra was EVERYWHERE on the ladder. I'm talking like 80% of the teams or something like that. It was considered the best dragon after the broken ones got banned, so people just started running it as the next meteor/outrage spammer in their place. It could run a multitude of sets and items (choice, lefties, lum, haban berry. Special set, mixed set, double dance set, substitute set).
It was so ubiquitous people where thinking "maybe the problem is not the broken Pokemons, maybe we need to ban outrage as a move".

Fryheart
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Just a quick one, really appreciate the replays just playing on in the background, nice addition to the vids

oliverthoumst
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what a nice cozy video to watch bundled up by the fire

drew_III
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Fairies have just become the new dragons. I think it might make sense if fairies were weak to bug and only resisted Dragon instead of being immune to it

Dionaea_floridensis
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Dragon types were incredibly powerful even after the nerf for them (when the fairy type was introduced in gen 6) and dragon types in gen 1 wasn’t the best to use but after gen 4 was when the dragon type was at its peak dragon types had a good amount of power and even with the fairy type and the lack of dragon moves did impact them but they still had a good prominence in the competitive scene

DanTheGucciMan
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good timing, I've been crafting/testing a gen 9 dragmag team and it's been a blast

YugiMomo
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Your thumbnails are from other world, really

LINKRETROGAMING
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I have 2 questions. 1. How would gen 3 look if T-tar had Intimidate instead of Sand Stream? 2. What if Fairy wasn't immune to Dragon but just resists it?

Ry-gtby
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Two uploads within a day? Kev on that 100% Columbian damn

ilovemalaysia
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I know I’m commenting before the video even starts so pee pee poo poo

Do you think you could do a video on the fall of the eeveelutions gens 3-6 ? I find it fascinating that almost all of the great eeveelutions in each of these gens manage to go from metagame staples to being never seen and borderline unviable by the end of the gen/post-gen

NovaContext
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Gen 5 was buff niggas flyin’ round on dragons in rain or during sandstorms

thenotoriousmichaeljackson
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I'm probably not the only one on here to leave a comment saying that I love using your Drag-Mag team, but I love using your Drag-Mag team! Ok, so it was also modified from Ciele, but you get the point! It's a fun team to use, and guarantees that one way or another, it's always going to be a quick match!

I wish that I was an active part of the community during Gen 5. Just the thought of people downright panicking, and all the hair-pulling, hand-wrangling, anxious-ranting, DS-dropping activity that comes with it makes me snicker!

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