The Rogue Echo Rower Is Pretty Much What You’d Expect…

0:00 - The Rogue Echo Rower Is Pretty Much What You’d Expect…
0:34 - Overview
1:11 - Assembly & Pricing
2:09 - Rogue's Competition-Minded Approach
2:42 - Stability of the Echo Rower (Storage & In-Use)
5:02 - Folding Storage Mode
7:18 - TURF TIRESSSS
8:02 - Quick-Release Foot Straps
8:55 - The Echo's Row Handle
9:57 - The Addition of a Chain Marker
10:25 - Rogue's Take on a Rower Monitor
11:02 - A "Unique" Metrics Test
13:34 - Overall Fit & Finish
14:16 - Would Coop Choose the Rogue Echo or C2 Rowerg?
15:44 - Final Thoughts

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[toddlopes]

I've decided to stick with C2 for now. I’ve really bought into the C2 ecosystem, and I have to say, their customer service is the best in the industry. If you ever need parts, you can find most of them on their website, and if something isn't listed, just give them a call—there's a real human on the other end!

The fast shipping and minimal costs for parts are a huge plus too.

[cameronmccoy]

Well done with highlighting Sam's contraption for testing metrics. It really illustrates Sam's cleverness and ingenuity. Very impressive.

[ybxfitness]

As a former international Rower, Concept 2 is everywhere. My first erg was the model 1 with a steel wheel ( so heavy and sounded like a hurricane) more than 25 years ago, and it's such a fantastic company that actually cares about athletes (they were very often coming during international competitions for us to test and give feedback on their products)...I'm not sure how I feel about Rogue bringing up a similar design with a few tweaks... (any competitive rower will make the C2 jump forward; I bet it will be the same for the Rogue)

[jmondanaro]

The PM# module and connected apps are a major part of the rower for training purposes. I’m disappointed there wasn’t more depth given to the computers that come with them. I’ve had my C2 for 21 years now and am giving it to my grown children. There’s no way I’m going to replace it with something that has no track record. Definitely going to buy another C2.

[danesnick]

I think one of those things missed here is the Concept 2 PM5 app ecosystem. The Erg LogBook App/Website is amazing and you can use the same app to track workouts across all their devices. You can also setup things like Erg triathlons if you have all 3. There's no such feature here with the Rogue Echo products. I have the BikeErg and SkiErg that I love I can use the same app to track workouts on both of them. I eventually plan to get the RowErg over this for the same reason. If you could retrofit a PM5 here I'd be more interested.

[davidba]

I will be adding this to my toolbox when I expand my garage gym.

I really like the fact that it's overbuilt.

[BigZ]

I pulled the trigger on one of these on my birthday when I saw that they were in stock with free shipping. For reference I'm currently around 450 pounds, and it's super solid, I have no issues with it, but the seat is tiny. I actually had an old drum throne laying around, and I replaced the stock seat with that and it was so much better for me. I'm 6'5" so the extra height helped a bit too. Thanks for the review.

[en]

One thing you didn‘t say: the big community of the c2, so that you can compare or compete to other (professional) rowers. I think, that is by far the most important point for someone who will row more professionally. For the normal user the rougue rower seems a quite good choice!

[kstronglifts]

We will see. I like supporting smaller companies, but I do agree that healthy competition leads to innovation.

[shadypiratefishing]

Just got mine last week. It is my first rower, but I'm loving it as an additional option to my echo bike. Rogue is awesome.

[martinchalupa]

I would like to see a bit more details about the rogue’s console. I had bad time with it on echo bike and on c2 the experience was very good. Things like connection with chest strap or training apps. Maybe showing what it can display on console. For example I really like power curve view on c2.

[Shabanezloth]

When buying from Rogue in Canada, the Echo rower was 300$ less in total than C2 (1700$ vs 1400$). Competition can only be good for us customers.

[HondaCL]

Not made in USA means no buy for me. Love Rogue but disappointed they couldn’t have this made stateside.

[steveoake]

C2 sells the top monitor holder for $1 on their site. You can also buy a tablet/cell phone holder upgrade arm for $15.

[Markinator]

I see a lot of reasons to buy a C2.
Community, proven quality, replacement parts, looks, history, used by all real rowers and pros, used at all competitions, supporting the inventor instead of the copycat...this should be worth more than 150 bucks!

[ChrisTexan]

One idea to help equalize testing. Build a long handle (closet rod, whatever) with eyebolts at each end, long enough to extend over the midline of both rowers (6ft, whatever works), if staged side-by-side. Then attach/clip the eyes to each rower's handle, and using rope and a small pulley with a mounting eye/point, make a "V" cord also attached at the eyes to each side, that then is centered in the v to your "pulling" system (automatic, human, whatever)... so that it can pull evenly (and if it's not pulling evenly, then you know you have an issue #1, they aren't even pulls)...
Or just if you have it, put a human on a 3rd rower/seat in the center, and pull the rod from the center evenly.
THis way, the input force is dividing across both rowers, so metrics should be consistent at that point simultaneously (or you'll be somewhat sure the differences are rower-specific).
To be absolutely sure (because the "V" can allow the rod to shift depending on each rower's resistance), you could use a double pulley with both inputs coming straight from the ends, through a transition pulley, and then through a double pulley so the ropes are being pulled in parallel at the end of the whole mess. This will reuqire each rope end (thus rower handle) to move the exact same amount (but is much more complicate to rig up and describe).
Anyhow, regardless of the rigging, a method to pull both rowers the same amount by attaching them both to the one bar to pull both at the same time) seems like the best bet on guaranteeing consistency.
Final rigging method I just thought of, same concept with the single bar, but using pulleys at each end instead of eyes, and passing the rope/cable used to pull the handles, THROUGH the pulleys (it'll have to move back further, and you'll have to have a way to anchor the bar to make it stationary between the rowers) would equalize the force completely to a fixed center pulling point. Could anchor the crossbar in this concept, to the front of a squat rack (strapped/tied to the front supports) and then have the pulleys out past each leg, coming together in/behind the squat rack for the pulling input to use. This (to my mind) would be the 100% method to ensure even force is put into the rowers, and may give some idea of how the spin-up/down reacts as well (as if they aren't even, one side may get a little slack while the other is still pulling, for example).
Looking forward to final results however ya'll do it!

[floatingbonesjournal]

Yes, I'm both happy and sad that someone has matched (and maybe exceeded) the C2 rower. Those guys invented the very concept of a calibrated erg for the industry. I'm curious if the CBreeze airflow-cover cooler is compatible with the Echo. 
You could have some blindfold-testing comparisons to a C2, although I'm sure the rowing experts could still detect what machine they were on.

Is there any possibility that Rogue would do a SkiErg? IDK how popular that machines overall. One thing they could improve on that machine is to provide Leki-style straps that directly transfer force through the wrists without gripping.

[spacecowboy]

I wish i could put different attachment handles on this... as a company that sells lots of cable attachments you'd think they would make them changeable

[mrqualityreviewer]

I like the echo rower but the C2 reliability hands down is a major factor when buying a product. Still think C2 wins this one BUT the echo rower is good competition and hopefully used C2s prices will drop after this

[CraftLulz]

I actually bought a rower today, i was torn between c2 and rogue. I went with C2 simply because of the availability of replacement parts and the footprint. If