Was the Wuthering Waves Launch Bad? | A 2 Month Review

With SensorTower revenue data for July released, many are asking one question: Was Wuthering Waves' potential destroyed by its problems at launch?

Today we answer that question, breaking down the downstream implications of Kuro's compensation and what it means for the game's future.

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[shinkenji]

game is for entertainment, not for earn billion
I more prefer to support this kind of developer

[HeroMysticLYX]

The idea of Skins is not talked about enough. Some players may not understand, but it's been seen time and time again across multiple games that stellar skins just sell. Nikke even has a gacha for skins and their revenue goes crazy on those months.

[powsinwosin]

4:03 I have to disagree with "outdated hardware". Respectfully I think you do not know what you are talking about in this area, and is quite misleading and blaming users outright.
Recommended settings are put as to much how they can get away with technical support. If your code is inefficient, it will run sluggish.
I run both a new ryzen7 + 4090 + ssd AND I5 8300H + 1050Ti + ssd, and both are stuttery, despite both running at 120+ fps.
Some optimization are released 3-4 weeks after launch and it improved the game a little bit.
Recently I found 2 reddit posts about optimization. The first one is disabling a usb suspend setting, and the other tweaking engine.ini.
I did both and the game now runs buttery smooth.
The stutters are caused by multiple factors, one of which the usb setting was being remote polled by tencent's ace anti cheat.
Wuthering waves is a huge blessing, as it brings competition and better service for both games.
Unless you know UE4, and test games with both low and high end for a living, please refrain from making such comments.

[mw]

I am not a complete whale, but I have spent just over 100 dollars on wuthering and a big reason for that was because I noticed so many players are not inclined to spend money, which worried me because I don't want this game to fall under.

[Yewrenegade]

If KURO will add the farmable free skins for F2P as well as giving whales the premium paid skins for the whales. Then WuWa will be even more profitable thanks to PGR skin lineup experience.

Im just waiting for maybe 1.5 or more since I love to give them a break, they deserve that since they have been overwoking a lot and I wish them in good health to make a fun game and I will happily be a dolphin user

[mybeaniebooz]

Hoyo doesn't actually listen to cn, they only take action when they are threatened with legal action which are only ever caused by the cn playerbase because they are rabid

[X_]

Thank God WuWa was made. It's basically everything we ever wanted in Genshin... But better. I am a Hardcore player and Genshin wasn't it for me so I hopped on to WuWa and never regretted it. I'm a Mobile player with a SnpDrgn 8+ Gen 1 and it was frickin atrocious and it still is. Lowering the Graphics doesn't work so I don't know what the problem is. If it really is my phone's problem then it is what it is 😅

Edit: I've heard people say the performance issues are because of WuWa using Unreal Engine which requires more updated hardware than others like Unity. But Guys let me just say this... Pubg Mobile is made with Unreal Engine and I can play it at Maxed Out settings with Minimal lag and heat 💀

[princessochka]

Im playing Wuwa and gonna continue playing it. But saying that Wuwa doesn't have optimization issues is simply ignorant. I have a decent PC and meet very frequent fps drops below 60 to this day. Even if i set all settings to lowest and limit fps to 45 - i still have those drops. Fps framerate graph is very bumpy, but using fps limiter from Afterburner suddenly makes it smooth as a butter. Turning on the DLSS makes the game literally laggy. I have a sompletely smooth gameplay (without any drops) in a way better looking Cyberpunk on high settings (even with RT, if i use FSR frame gen mod), but graphically unimpressive Wuwa still manages to stutter.

[dtariushale]

The fact i dont have to spend alot just to get one copy and a weapon is WHY im willing to spend. It means ill get my moneys worth. If its not a complete gamble im happy to spend. For example i spent 130 already on wuwa and deleted two other gachas cus its more cost effecient. Therefore kuro is getting my money that wouldve went to other games...

[KuroiRyuuGaming]

I'm not gonna lie. I'm puzzled every time someone points out that a MASSIVE player base has a large amount of undesirable people in it. We're acting as if it's a new thing. Yet we have so many other examples, like the WoW "community", or BTS Army, or BlackPink Blinks...you name it.

That being said, the launch was bad. I have an R7 5700X + RX 6800, and it was painful on launch. Also, the 3-4 year old game bit is weird. The recommended hardware specs indicate that this is simply not a demanding game. So, imo, you can't just relegate this to "poor hardware". As far as I'm concerned, the game had some optimization issues, and that's before we ever start talking about the mobile experience. I feel like they did drop the ball on that one and to be honest, they might still not quite be there for mobile players...if that's a platform they actually want to capitalize on.

In any case, whether it's doomed the game or not depends on how Kuro measures success. As long as they make enough to keep working on, and improving the game then I'm a happy camper and I'll keep supporting the game for as long as I have fun playing it.

[happygolucky]

Wuwa is just cheaper than hoyogames to get both the resonator plus sig weapon. Even in zzz which i also play i spent almost double just to get a copy of zhu yuan and her sig weapon at the start compared to me getting s2 changli plus her sig weapon. So it is rather normal for zzz to outperform wuwa in revenue. Zzz is actually a very fun game too despite so many people shit on it online.

[rlstrength]

Hard disagree on the performance argument that it's old tech, you're essentially gaslighting IMO.
They launched with VRAM leaks and other performance bottleneck issues.
This is absolutely not the community reaction's fault, it was bad software and communication on kuro's end.

FWIW it ran fine on my devices so it's not even like I'm salty

[tempeztx]

Not only the genshin community being salty and start doomposting but also the tof community as well as their biggest streamer Gateoo. They're just mad their game flopped horrendously and still doesn't improve after 3 YEARS. Instead of admitting their game short coming they just doompost to pull wuwa down with them. Such pathetic behavior, as expected from gacha gamers

[RozaDaZLastBloomer]

Did you just trying to downplay a huge weapon problem to just a minor mistranslation? your point literally just reverses because you downplay the big problem to a minor one.
Also blaming user hardware issue instead of bad optimization? the source of your clip is literally contradicting your point because that user optimized the game file himself to run on his old phone.

[cptninja]

dont try to white wash wuwa their launch was disaster....with opening issue, 32% loading screen issue, lag, freezes and stuttering issue even with high end pc problems still persist now even after 2 months ....i have ryzen 7 5800x and rtx 3070 this hardware is over the recommended ...now dont tell me that this hardware is outdated

[jamesdavid]

For mobile yes, it was definitely a very rough launch experience, credit where credit is due kuro got to work on trying to patch out the issues very quickly.

[wizzy]

Launch bad? Yes its bad. They were incompetent when handling UE4 and used tencent's anti cheat expert which fcked up a lot of pc's and laptop thinking that it was the players's fault for the game not running

Yeah fck tencent and solon should just end their relationship with then

[babatea]

I have spendt over 200 on Wuawa and tge main reason was because of how fast and interactive they are with the community. I hope they keep up the good communication because if they do i am for sure willing yo spend more especially if the release skins and more intresting new characters and diverse designs (if wuwa decides to go the cultural inspiration route)

[Rickyty]

This is what we're saying since Launch. Thank you for voicing this out ❤ Great Video!

[adrianlim]

This game runs like shit on my S23 Ultra, it's not a tech released "more than half a decade ago", this thing is 1) barely a year old, 2) a flagship, and 3) is probably better than 90% of mobile devices used by people who play this game. I can only play this game half decently on my RTX3070. This isn't the average customer's device profile.

I love this game, but wow, you people are defending it like zealots.