Is it WRONG to Attend the Wedding of a Lapsed Catholic? w/ Fr. Gregory Pine

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In this clip, Fr. Gregory Pine discusses the complications of attending or supporting the wedding or a lapsed Catholic, or of Catholics marrying "outside the Church."

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I am not Catholic (yet? But thinking seriously about it)
I just want to say Fr Gregory Pine speaks incredibly well, and I appreciate his ability
to convey the gravity of something while
Being encouraging and kind.

henrysharpe
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My brother divorced and got married a second time outside the Church. I didn't attend this wedding. I told him: "I don't want to participate in ceremony which celebrates your decision to live in the state of mortal sin.I care more about your eternal hapiness than the temporary one." I don't feel it's a jugement or insult, it's an act of love. He respected my decision. I fast and pray for him a lot...

agnieszkak
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I went to a "catholic wedding" at a Catholic Church of some friends that are not practicing catholics, when the husband entered they played a star wars song, so I took my family and left.

irodjetson
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My non practicing daughter got married to another no practicing Catholic this past June. My family (household) attended. We are the only Catholics in her life (other than grandparents). She and I have always had a very very strained relationship because of our differences in beliefs. We went because not going would have severed our relationship completely and she would have associated our not going as another thing hateful Catholics do. I didn't like it but I truly prayed and talked to more than one priest about it. I firmly believe she has married another Catholic because they will eventually come back to the Church. Mary let it be known to me during a 54 day novena 5 years ago that she would.

weallhaveanopinion
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An articulate, informative, enlightened, discourse, given with love and respect for our ability to discern truth and make choices based on our spiritual priorities. It is far easier to say, "Father told me to do thus and such, " than it is to accept responsibility for thinking things through and accepting responsibility for choosing or rejecting God's will. Teaching his child to think vs giving an easy out takes more time, but is what a "good" father does for a child he loves. Thank you for your time and instruction Father Pine.

amaraheising
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Father, thank you for putting words and reason to a very complex thought process. I will learn from it and use it in the future. Some of these situations are even more complex than you describe. I sometimes think that we do more harm abandoning people by not attending something like this, and also think that showing up there clearly does not mean that we support or condone something, even if other, casual attendees infer that we do. These are the nuanced shades of situations where even learned priests differ in opinion. I have asked for and received different advice than what you delineate here from a very intelligent, educated, and excellent priest, pastor of my church, whom I respect a great deal. Our intent matters also, both in the eyes of the church and in the eyes of Christ. I Thank you again for making me think.

garyworth
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Thank you Father. You have cleared up all the ambiguity others seem to engage in regarding this issue.

sandragoss
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Please continue to introduce yourself at the beginning. My first time hearing you Father. Charity is not always seen as a pleasant action in our fallen lives. Thank you and God bless you Father.

challengable
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How is formication not as gravely immoral as homosexual sex? If you attended and approve of the pseudo-wedding of two people who are officially deciding to live together with no sacramental blessing, how are you not objectively causing scandal? There might be gray areas, however, I would think this is pretty cut and dry. I met a young girl who said (of her “wedding”) “everyone came. They didn’t say anything.”

Now, she’s stuck in a non sacramental marriage with an irreligious man who physically removed her and her daughter from mass. I had almost convinced her to talk to her “husband” about a marriage blessing as she thought he was softening to her, and the new priest has ignored the situation and is giving her communion. Do you see the messiness? “No one said anything and everyone came.” And now she thinks everything is fine. No blessing needed. Receiving communion and the approval of the priest.

My rule of thumb: If God isn’t invited to the wedding than neither am I. He’s my friend and I care about situations where He’s offended. My not attending may be the prick of their conscious that leads them to repentance down the road.

btbbtb
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Great video! It would be nice if you gave some more examples of specific situations where you think it would and wouldn't be okay to attend a marriage. Maybe do a part 2 of this video explaining different situations and then talking about your thought process in discerning the right decision.

MichaelA
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This is so helpful beyond the "example" case. Thank you!

JoseAbell
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My really close friend is wedding a non catholic outside the church and she asked me to be her maid of honor. Phew ! It was tough saying no. I did so in the most polite way possible, I call her the friendship is not the same

chisomchinwero
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I wanted to hear this so desperately.... Thank you Fr. Gregory and Matt..!

yosepchakkalayil
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The purpose of this video is to explain principles of moral Theology as taught by the Church so that one can apply them to better think through particular scenarios. Rather than attacking the messenger (Fr. Pine) or this channel, it seems more reasonable and charitable to examine the principles he’s teaching. If you disagree with a certain principle, then you have something concrete and foundational to discuss/ argue charitably about.

andonedave
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Love father Gregory, precious soul!
God bless you and keep you.

soroushfetkovich
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My brother got married by the courts and later had it blessed in the Church. They divorced and he married another woman in the Lutheran church. I didn't attend that wedding. I was the only sibling not to attend.

calenbennedict
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How does shunning lapsed Catholics help them come back to the church?

pyrovania
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this topic is so relevant and comes up so much in my life

curlyclouds
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“If you need the Mass times, push 2”

😂

debbiegum
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Great explanation--I declined to attend a granddaughters outdoor wedding under the trees officiated by some guy in a green suit even after being specifically invited and I told her why but I did give her a present of a clock I had made. It was a hard decision but I am glad I did so even though the relationship has cooled. I personally did not want to become complicit in an act that gave any approval of her lack of faith and baptism and I do not think she will ever forget my decision which I hopefully believe someday will help bring her back the Faith.

donrougeux