Why People Don't Realize They're Incompetent

–David Dunning, a social psychologist whose research focuses on accuracy and illusion in self-judgment, joins David to discuss the Dunning-Kruger effect and people’s assessment of their own moral character

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[MediumChungus]

In my last job interview, I answered that I can't stand it when people are stupid or ignorant and they don't realize it. I got hired.

[differous]

“If our brains were simple enough for us to understand them,
we'd be so simple that we couldn't.”
[Ian Stewart - 'The Collapse of Chaos']
As with the hardware, so with the software.

[raccoononymous]

How ironic would it be if David Dunning had no idea what he was talking about?

[bb]

One of the key aspects of knowledge (and wisdom) is knowing what you don't know. (Another is unlearning much of what you've been taught, especially when you were a child, not yet capable of rational thought,  and prone to magical thinking and thus highly impressionable)

[WildwoodClaire]

Our Congress is the very crucible of Dunning-Kruger.

[rosiehoney]

These are the types of videos i live for because you learn something.

[oOSabianOo]

I get that Dunnung and Cruger actually put in the leg work and came up with peer reviewed papers but this idea has been around for quite some time.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russell

[nicholas]

Before I heard of the DK effect, I read somewhere that people tend to underestimate how difficult other people's jobs are. These two ideas seem related.

[KeatrithAmakiir]

Excellent interview!
I like that he confirmed one thing about how I assess my views; I look at "how am I wrong" and try and view all sides of an issue. Though a lot was new info and really, really interesting!

[GoogleHelpYou]

I agree with this. When I ask people why is there a need for sign language when deaf can lip read, people who know nothing about lip reading confidently tell me the wrong answer.

They told me that sign language is for other to understand a deaf and thought that I was dumb to even ask this question.

1)They didn't know that some deaf can speak
2)They didn't know that lipreading is mainly guesswork

[shygirl]

Still I find this is the best way to get rid of bias, though the stronger your feelings, the harder this task is. If your feelings are too strong u may have
to wait til they fade b4 u make your final judgement

[yogaflame]

I can't get past that orange kitty's reflection.😅 It's too hilarious

[kgdblade]

Great interview David.  Bringing on real experts like this and ingaging them in their contributions is what sets your show apart from the others.  Dunning is a very articulate man, you should try to get him again and maybe explore other avenues of his research and their implications.

[dylanringwood]

I think the abortion debate scenario was a poor example of the Dunning Kruger effect. The DK effect is actually very interesting and can be explained quite easily.

[c.t.]

I have found a useful tool if you say it out loud sometimes it opens your eyes.
An example for me is when I was 20 I could not figure out why I would get into arguments with strangers when i was just buying gas or grocerys.
One day i decided to say it out loud.
I wore a ridding jacket, rode a motorcycle.had long hair, lived in the heart of the hood sold weed, carried a handgun had two rottwielers, drove a trans am.
when i said it I realized i wouldn't like me either.
But I don't see how asking other people their opinion would help because in my life I have found people often assume things that are not even close to the truth.
I was walking out to my car one day(mazda rx7) when a guy I had been working with for about a year said thats your car I always pictured you driving a big 4x4 he could not have been farther off from what I believe about cars as i feel big trucks are a waist and for as often as you need a truck in life it is far cheaper to rent one plus I like to drive fast cant do that in a truck my point is most people would be wrong if you asked them anything about you.

[ramjackson]

a quote from my sister.. I said " you cant just eat frozen dinners every day, thats not healthy".. her response.. " why not? my husband

[GokayCEKLI]

Wow thanks professor my self esteem just hit the bottom now.

[TheyCallMeGawd]

I very much enjoyed this, I run into commenters all the time who've only seen combat in the news, movies or worse video games who will argue to no end on the topic despite being so very wrong in their misconceptions, this has given me more insight as to why they would be so obstinate on a subject that they have never personally had first hand experience in. 

[eltouristoduo]

Strive not just to come to correct conclusions based on adequate
consideration. Strive just as much to find what is missing and incorrect
from your thought process about each task. Be gratified to become aware
of your wrong, for you can't grow without it. Don't just admit to
yourself and others you're wrong. Recognize and share it's vital
importance. Encourage others to recognize being wrong*. Admonish
childish behavior that devalues being wrong. Foster the ability to find
it. Cherish it. Own it. Re-characterize it inside yourself, your
emotions, your ego, from something to avoid, to something that's an
intrinsic part of thinking. Because it is. Being wrong it not a 'fatal
error', quite the opposite. Not being open and quick to find error in
oneself is the trap.

Not being open and able to find error in oneself is to be ill-equipped.


*Laughable wording, but that's what I'm doing here. Sounds like
encouraging browbeating, lol. You have to be careful and respectful, and
explain where you're coming from.

If you want to be obsessive about it, suspect you're wrong and then
tirelessly set about finding the error. And not finding an error
doesn't prove there isn't one. lol. Have fun with that. (be your own
critic)

[WildwoodClaire]

Is "Dunning-Kruger effect" merely a new synonym for hubris?