Can Victorinox Be Beat? (Maybe.......but not yet)

Why is it so hard to beat Victorinox? How can they stay ahead of the challengers?

0:00 Intro
0:19 Why Victorinox is BEST
Victorinox Explorer (SALE ATM)
Victorinox Fieldmaster
POCKET CLIP (Nite ize)
2:51 Hope for the Future
4:41They could be Better
8:39 Specialized tools are awesome
9:20 Pocket Pliers change Everything
Knipex 125 Cobra
Knipex 100 Plier Wrench
SnapOn 4" Slip Joint
11:24 Conclusion

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[scotts.]

Pairing of tools is a better option to me. Example, turning a screw while holding the other side of the fastener. Also, as companies like Leatherman increase their prices this is becoming a less expensive option.

[prh]

To your statement about the quality of Victorinox I will add the longevity. I have a Camper model that I have carried since I was a kid, more than 60 years ago. Sure it has a few dings and scratches (so do I!) but it is still perfectly usable. As far as the three things that you are looking for, I might be in the minority, but I actually don't like pocket clips. They often create hot spots if using the tool for an extended period of time. I am neutral about locking blades and one-hand opening. They are nice but not really important to me.

[themechanicaladvantage]

I think a small micro tool kit will always be more functional than a multi tool.
I’m forever looking for the perfect set up but it’s hard to find.
Maybe do a video on a storage system for separates that is pocketable.
I’m excited to see your frankenox

[manwiththeredface]

1. Here's the thing about locking blades: they're illegal to carry in a lot of countries, particularly here in Europe (where Victorinox is based). Any such model would be at a disadvantage in terms of sales.
2. Victorinox will be doing the same thing they've been in the SAK lineup: having models that are ALMOST there, almost perfect but one or two crucial functions will be missing in each of them to make sure you don't stop at having only one.
3. Can Victorinox be beat? Yes and the origins of Leatherman is the proof. Tim Leatherman identified areas where a SAK is not enough. To anyone with the money and expertise to challenge Victorinox: don't just build a SAK clone. Oh and don't fall into the Gerber problem: where your product looks really good but the quality is poor.

[JGL]

I am on exactly the same journey. I have started carrying the knipex cobra and an old Swiss, just seems to work well!

[andrewfett]

👍🏼My mom gave me a fisherman when I was about 12. I’m 49 and I still have it. Never really carried it in pocket much but camping or working out of town it’s all ways w/me. The can opener has saved the day many times for numerous people and myself.
One multitool for me; otherwise I’m looking for a toolbox.
Don’t make fun of me but I’ve gotten by w/a Gerber diesel for the past 8 or 10 yrs. 😊 It’s what I felt like I could afford at the time. I made a horizontal kydex sheath that extends the pliers when I take it out and it pushes the pliers back in also. It’s been very handy and useful.
I’ve been trying to find a tool that I’m willing to spend my money on. I was about to “settle” for the leatherman free p4. BUT then you showed me the GOAT!!! I mostly fell in love with it and ordered one after much thought. Hopefully it arrives around my birthday in July.
If I hate it I’m gonna unsubscribe! 😂just kidding love your content!

[thetribalthief]

I totally agree with the pricing. it's crazy how Vic prices hasn't gone up. I know the Leatherman Wave+ was $99 in early 2022 but now it's $119.

[murdock]

Many thanks, great vid! My choice: Knipex 08 22 145 Pointed Combination Pliers, 145 mm, and a Victorinox Camper (with the saw). Next level: Bits, nuts and a ratchet.

[Jorge]

9:43 Mini pocket pliers based EDC toolkit.
My first.. "encounter" with that EDC philosophy was few month ago released/viewed: "Lightest EDC Pocket Toolkit: 7 Tools, 14 Bits, 5 ¼ Ounces (148g)" by Todd Parker channel (probably also inspired by the same video You mentioned)
His toolkit based mainly on:
Vx Alox Bantam (29g, 84mm single layer knife: blade + combotool), Knipex Cobra mini pliers (60g), mini ratchet + bunch of leatherman bits + other small stuff.

At some point after this I started to think that.. multi tools may.. be overvalued. And how undervalued may be minimalist single layer knives...

And on his usecase mini pliers and single layer Victorinox.. presented as nearly perfect combo as core of.. pocket EDC toolkit.

Anyway as others already commented I also already waiting to see.. Your implementation/vision, version of that type of EDC toolkit

[jacobstout]

I do pair tools, mainly being a knife, pen, MT, depending on what I'm doing I may carry more, or slim my carry down by reducing weight. I would rather just carry a plier based multi-tool and have some more function, it works perfect for me, more times than not I am over prepared. I keep tools in my vehicle as well. If I really need a better pair of pliers or a fastener is not breaking free I have the tools.

[CanadianBeachcomber]

Coincidentally, I have switched from a large multitool on my belt to carrying a small pair of pliers in my front pocket and SAK Hiker in my back pocket. This to have a lightweight EDC during the hot summer months at work.

[pama]

the way I see it, victorinox will always complement a leatherman pliers tool in edc ... for me, these 2 combined are perfect; having a need to carry dedicated pliers everyday just means you'd better grab the toolbox, or at least have on hand a selection of actual tools

and yes, clips, 1 hand blade and locking tools on victorinox would be nice

[NemoWrenchesevr]

I agree with the pairing of tools. I carry my Leatherman Crunch that allows me to use 1/4” bits, Milwaukee 6-in-1 fastback, Wiha double ended bits, 3” bits extension, mag nut setters, telescoping mag, pocket pry bars and the Surge t-shank saw & file. Saw & file I use with the Leatherman Crunch as you showed in one of your videos. I use a Vanquest PPM pouch to hold the tools.

[SussexEDC]

I can't agree enough about the pocket clip. I always add a suspension clip, but it's always a poor compromise.

Sometimes I'll just carry a Super Tinker, olight and Knipex Cobra XS when I want a light all round kit.

My regular EDC solution is a pocket knife, olight, cobra XS and a small pouch with other tools. I discuss this in my first video, but essentially I came to the same conclusion as you that I'd prefer dedicated individual tools that do a better job, alongside a decent knife.

The exception to this is my example above where I want a quick, lighter kit. Like when I'm wearing shorts for example.

[Zeratsu]

8:22 wow, that's a big statement! definitely will look forward for it.

[westonknight]

It's always wonderful to have the proper tool with you when you need it. To me, it just makes life a bit easier, and function just a bit more succinctly (for lack of a better way of putting it.. I guess). I've always loved my little tools (even going back years and years)...and I've carried a Leatherman Surge in a Deadskin leather sheath on my left side for years and years...and years. I also carry a Victorinox Hercules in my pocket, and I have many more tools here and there on me as well. I clearly love tools, and this love is reinforced everytime I need the use of one of these items daily (I'm a truck driver), and without even thinking about it, I just reach for the needed tool (I've kept these different tools in the same place on me for many years), so as I reach...the needed tool is always right there, and for me, this is a wonderful thing. I don't really have a favorite, I love Leatherman as much as I love Victorinox. For me, if it's a well made tool, it is just that, a well made tool, and it's there when I need it. In the words of Hickok 45, life is good, (and I'll add, when you have the tool that you need, when you need it). You've done a great video here sir, and you have a wonderful selection of functional tools. May you put together your perfect tool, and may it serve you well in your needed tasks. Be well.

[rickanthony]

I love to carry my Swiss tool Spirit Because I don’t have to think about parts but lately I’ve been experimenting with a dedicated plier and a SAK. The spirit has come in handy for some moderate car bodywork

[ytJnC]

I’ve been giving 80% of my carry time to a modded SAK Compact. I realize it’s “ancient” last century tech, but it just works as intended. No fancy blade steel, just some sort of SS that I suspect may be surgical quality. The thin blade is slicier than nearly all of my boutique single blades. And unlike a tactical knife, it’s great for just basic (but frequent) peeling of fruit. The perfect Compact for me doesn’t quite exist: traditional top side two layer but with Philips and awl on the back, with a pocket clip. (Hook and corkscrew are useless to me)

Oh I have seen a mod for the SAK for a one sided thumbstud similar to the Roxon. Unfortunately it’s only for lefties and not friendly to a pocket clip.

[Manachtron]

Weird comparison but Lego sometimes does creative competitions for new products. This would be such a great idea for Victorinox: do brainstorming / fan suggestions and let the community vote which model gets introduced to the market!

[bilakos]

I stopped looking for the perfect multi-tool and Swiss Army Knife when I got into dedicated edc tools. Small Knipex, mini bit ratchets, no multi-tool can keep up now. So I just carry something small like a Deluxe Tinker or Farmer X for blades and openers. Many useful things on a small package. The Vic Manager is an awesome example. Sad to see it discontinued.

Competing with Victorinox is tough. Ruike is doing a good job; screw construction, pocket clips, G10 scales, good quality. Others have tried. The James Brand stuff comes to mind, but if your knife is five times the cost and has half the tools of a same-size Victorinox, then you are not competing with Victorinox.

Thanks for the video, Dominic. You reminded me that I need one of those oho Spirits. :D