Windows 22H2 Problems

I’ve had a ton of bug reports from 22H2. DO NOT UPDATE to this first Windows 11 update, unless you know what you are getting in to.

[gregbirger]

"What have you got to lose? Besides breaking your computer." - Best quote regarding Win11. Will likely continue to be true for the entire lifecycle of that product.

[TroubledLoner]

YES! Thank you so much for this. I was one of the first 22H2 updaters. What a friggin' mistake that was!

[dafff]

i paid for win10, i will use win10.
i didnt "upgrade" to win10 for years, since my trusty win7 is still working like a charm, despite being 8 years old.
however, considering how many games have a win10 req. i was kinda forced to do it.
and since win10 works good enough, i will stick with it until games are no longer supported.

[NormanF]

I’ve not had any issues on Windows 11 22h2. Its been rock-solid and stable.

[cheebadigga]

Instead of moving from winget, you could add the option to choose the package manager via drop down or something. Would make things much easier both for development and for the end user.

[felixmuhle]

for me windows has become such a buggy mess lately
windows 8.1 never gave me trouble but since 10 its borked my machines more times than i can count, i hardly even dare go to the update page anymore...
gotta really appreciate that your tool restricts a lot of crap from MS
otherwhise i would be faced with daily outages or stuff like 5+ minutes boot times on ssds and 22gb idle ram usage lol
(no joke i really had that)

i had problems with your tools at first but now on fresh installs it seems to work as intended, though i cant seem to get rid of edge, it just keeps coming back

keep up the good work

[sirjarko]

I personally like this update but the issues sadly I fully expected. I personally took the plunge just for tabs and task manager but I also understand those that don't. Personally aside from the shitty requirements for 11 I really quite like it and a lot of that is like you said perception. I really disliked windows 10 because it was just a crazy weird mess especially when it came to UI. While I do miss the simpler UIs of windows 7 I appreciate what they are doing here. All I can really hope for is they continue refreshing and polishing legacy stuff and removing as much as the inconsistencies as possible. One app for settings and make that the best it can be etc while of course keeping compatibility as best they can. Hopefully they keep at it and maybe they will update some of the legacy codebase within reason but its MS and its not like they have an easy task with the amount of teams and devs coming and going and how MS work hard to keep compatibility which I do commend.

There is a reason I use WIndows over other OS even with its issues.

[ShaneJoseph]

I've been using it for a while now with no issues at all, however I wouldn't recommend updating a business machine but for personal use the choice is up to the user.

[rjjeffreys]

I am still on 1903. And, have 'refined' it to have the best Windows experience possible for me here. I'm not updating to any later vers. of Windows, until I am absolutely forced to by MS....

[BBK]

Thank you so much Chris, you made me switch mostly to linux and i am using Manjaro. It is very fast and less hog ups and hiccups

[joshhardin]

waiting a year for feature update is OUT OF THE QUESTION (our users expect whatever they are running on their home machines to be close to what's running on their workstations). the longest our university waits for feature updates is MAYBE 6 months (And that's only if something is majorly broken in testing). Feature updates usually fix a TON of security problems from previous versions as well. We typically wait about 2-3 months before rolling out feature updates to our managed workstations assuming there's nothing major reported and it works reasonably well on the computers of IT staff (which get new feature updates within a week or two of being rolled out). We just started pushing 22h2 about a week ago (right after they fixed the RD issues), and things have been relatively good. (we also as a policy disallow access to the windows store, so that particular bug that you described shouldn't come up).

[AlienInSider]

The old windows directory (windows.old) has OVER 350K files, the new (windows) has 120k files, more than 3 times less. This is more than great for non-gaming PCs. Now tested with APU 3200G and it is slightly better than the old 21H2...
But yes, maybe not good for business for now

[godtable]

Well they're tried to modernize the code, the idea was to break windows in independent pieces and change them one by one. At the same time, they wanted to use containers for the old stuff in order to keep compatibility going (something like chrome OS). Quickly they abandoned the project and Windows 11 was born, new on the outside, old in the inside.

[KuroHebi]

I know my experience won't be true for most users who updated, but as a personal user who doesn't work for a business, 22H2 is a huge improvement over 21H2, especially performance-wize. There are a couple of bugs here and there (sometimes media control won't appear in the "Quick Settings" flyout), but all-in-all, I'm glad I clicked the Download & Install button. I was afraid the performance would plummet like how these updates usually affect my PC, but I was more than pleasantly surprised to notice my CPU usage by individual core reduce drastically, sometimes all the way down to 0% on some ticks. The OS runs a lot more smoothly, that's for sure.

[bryank]

thanks for doing these videos, super helpful. w11 should be a lot less headache inducing within the next couple years.

[emilevanrensburg]

As I am on the Dev Insider Program, a stable OS is really something of the past. By choice of course. But the crash issues have been so bad that I've had to do 2 system restores and eventually a fresh install install in the last 24h.

Really reconsidering the platform as a whole...

[JcRabbit]

There's a ton of other bugs in 22H2 that didn't made it to that list, despite some being reported by Insiders since August at least (which kind of makes me wonder if MS will ever come around to fix those).

For instance, all software reporting CPU usage is currently broken because Windows itself is returning meaningless values. This even affects the new Windows Task Manager itself: open the Details tab and marvel at how completely broken and meaningless CPU usage per process now is.

They will not stop until the OS is completely broken.

[TazzSmk]

removal of offline installation possibility is major fuckery from Microsoft in W11 22H2

[dh]

The fact that Chris is talking about not updating rather than using the update rings or semiannual channels should immediately tell you he's speaking to end users and not Sysadmins. Please act accordingly. If I have to clean up another environment from a Jr Sysadmin hearing something on youtube and treating it as best practice, well... I'll continue to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars of contracts... :P

[RogueFeather]

Im a Linux user and i need to say.
22H2 is really stable for me.
Had this printer problem once but nothing more. I really dont know how ppl have this qwq