DELTARUNE - Chess Theory | ULTIMATE Edition

I finally completed Chess Theory's follow-up video, now close to 20 minutes long, this recaps EVERYTHING from the first video with a LOT of new evidence to back everything up, this is a lot more polished and refined, and I don't stutter as much! I can't get rid of it entirely since that's just my natural stutter I suffer with :(

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VIDEO CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Why Chess?
1:45 - The Evidence
2:40 - Lightners and Darkners
3:14 - King
4:04 - Queen
5:26 - The Knight
6:14 - Chapter Structure in Deltarune
7:07 - Chapter 3 Predictions
8:10 - Chapter 4 Predictions
11:02 - Chapter 5 Predictions
12:02 - Chapters 6 and 7
13:50 - Pawns and Flowers Link Hypothesis
15:11 - Closing Thoughts and Predictions
16:16 - Chapter 7 Thoughts
17:33 - Final Tid-Bits
18:30 - Thank You

Original Post inspiring my video by u/sup_gamerr:

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Hey everyone, the name's Ossy Flawol!

[OssyFlawol]

I finally completed Chess Theory's follow-up video, now close to 20 minutes long, this recaps EVERYTHING from the first video with a LOT of new evidence to back everything up, this is a lot more polished and refined, and I don't stutter as much! I can't get rid of it entirely since that's just my natural stutter I suffer with :(
VIDEO CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Why Chess?
1:45 - The Evidence
2:40 - Lightners and Darkners
3:14 - King
4:04 - Queen
5:26 - The Knight
6:14 - Chapter Structure in Deltarune
7:07 - Chapter 3 Predictions
8:10 - Chapter 4 Predictions
11:02 - Chapter 5 Predictions
12:02 - Chapters 6 and 7
13:50 - Pawns and Flowers Link Hypothesis
15:11 - Closing Thoughts and Predictions
16:16 - Chapter 7 Thoughts
17:33 - Final Tid-Bits
18:30 - Thank You

[fleecemanjenkins]

I think it's also worth noting that Spamton, being a pawn, has the ultimate goal of being "promoted" in the Snowgrave route, taking the role that Queen once had.

[alexkuntmm]

When Noelle joins your party, if you go back to the previous room instead of proceeding Noelle will say something like "Kris, isn't that the wrong way?" And I think that's perfectly in line with the whole pawn thing since they're only allowed to go forward which would mean that since Noelle is a pawn she would naturally want to *proceed* to the next room aka go forward lol

[SoulBro]

knowing Toby with the names such as Rouxls and Lancer, it would be funny if the theorized mike character would be a crow salesman with a cellphone and mic (mike-crow-phone)

[arsonfelony]

It's kinda funny to me thinking we're playing chess against gaster, because no matter what route you take this man is fucking *horrible* at playing chess. You have metaphorically captured *so many* of his pieces.

[toxicrepeter]

I always found it interesting that the queen piece can copy all other pieces' movements except the knight's. That could be why she wants to create a new knight instead of "becoming" one herself.

[ultraz]

18:16 "Pawns can only move forward in chess, they can only proceed"

The comparison you said with the characters and pawns also reflects the dialog when checking the sliding bead toy in the hospital "the beads march grimly along their set path" just how like pawns can only move forward in chess (unless they taking another piece.) Their is also a more direct comparison between the beads on the toy and Berdly in the snowgrave route "One of the blue beads is broken and torn off" in this case Berdly being the bead that broke off.

[forkgodsdescendant]

I noticed something.
Gerson says his best ideas came from DREAMS.
Susie wants Noelle to believe that everything she saw in the dark world was a DREAM.

[emilierekdal]

I just got a random little idea, but like, remember all those times Ralsei tells us to “close our eyes and imagine how Susie is doing”, and then obviously talks to Kris in private while we’re gone, ending the conversations on “You see Kris, that’s why—“ or something like that? What if he’s instructing Kris? Instructing them on how to get promoted into a knight? At this point I think it’s pretty clear that Ralsei is aware of us, the player, like how he specifically names the town after us, the player, and not Kris.

[lonebattledroid]

I think another thing to add is that I believe all the dark worlds will be based off entertainment Lightners enjoy. Chapter 1 was Toys, Chapter 2 was the Internet, Chapter 3 will be TV, and if you're theory is correct I believe Chapter 4 will be about the War Hammer books (they seem to be deltarune's version of Lord of the rings) and they'll likely reference religion a lot so the Bishop theory fits, and I think Chapter 5 will be video games (maybe the one Noelle is playing).

[SolitarySpade_Davon]

"Pawns can only move forward in chess, they can only proceed"
Great wordplay, even greater PTSD

[mysterygo]

A religion dark world isn’t something I thought I’d want, but now I want to see it more than any other potential dark world.

[vonkaiser]

I really like this theory but there is also one more thing that needs considering.
If we are talking about multiple pawns here, we also need to consider one thing:
Each side has TWO of Rooks, Bishops and Knights.
It's possible that each of the villains of chapter 3, 4, 5 might either have an accomplice equal in power to them.

[Watcher-ptuq]

I think we can predict future secret bosses too by the different soul types. When it is was revealed that our soul turned into the 'yellow soul' I immediately thought that there's no way Toby would have the secret bosses all attack red hearts and Spamtom being the only unique one.
I don't know for certain what the order could be, but the fact that yellow was the first unique soul we got it may going the inverse of undertale. Which would mean the green heart is next.
The secret bosses also seem to come from the "fool" characters, such as Jevil being the Jester, and Spamtom being a salesman who became Spam.

With these variables I would assume the secret boss maybe wants to "free" or "save" everyone from their slavery, like a parody of Battle Against A True Hero.

Edit: After a discussion I had within the comments I think any soul order will be based on the inverse of the flowey fight rather than the undertale bosses.

[GameJam]

Imagine if the final boss of the game was actually in a chess match, similar to how Queen has a more unique battle style with the punch-out idea, and all the pieces in the match were the actual characters and the positions they filled.

[glitchybugs]

Now I want to play chess against Gaster in the final chapter.

[reginaldgreen]

What about a counter theory, based on each Deltarune boss connotating the bosses of Undertale? King represents Asgore, both appearing at the end while referenced beforehand. Queen represents Toriel, an ex-queen, who both take measures to protect/make a child happy (Queen positioned to act like a mother to Noelle, or at least representing an overcontrolling mother).
From that, Mike, if he is Chapter 3's boss, represents a game show host, akin to Mettaton, whom we know asks you to bring back something interesting to them in Chapter 3. Now Spamton NEO does take on MTT reference yes, but perhaps that is a foreshadow of Mike's relation to MTT or perhaps it is that the secret bosses reflect the genocide versions of UT's bosses. (Deltarune is an anagram of Undertale after all).
Chapter 4's boss, whom makes sense to be at the church as the most likely location, judging a lot at the fact that considering in Chapter 3 there is no school, and so it must be Saturday, Chapter 4 would be on a Sunday. Going after Gerson's books perhaps here for a very fantasy based chapter, it would make sense for it to be a boss based after perhaps Undyne, who is a hero, wears armour and has close ties to Gerson already in Undertale. This also works back from if Spamton NEO hints to Mike, Chapter 3's secret boss may have inspiration from Undyne the Undying and so hint at the next boss of Chapter 4. One thing to bring up as well is Kris wanting to learn the piano, and perhaps there is a church organ or piano in the church and an alternative theme for Chapter 4 is music and singing (church choirs, etc). And Undyne is known to play the piano and had cut concepts from Toby when developing her as a character for being into singing and fashion.
Chapter 5, perhaps follows food, and is perhaps set in QC's diner or somewhere else. A food based dark world would make sense as well, if we relate it to Papyrus, who we know cooks spaghetti, at least for other's enjoyment. While the secret boss of Chapter 4 would have to reference a genocide boss of Papyrus, for which there isn't really, it could perhaps refer to Sans instead, a fellow user of the same blue soul mode as Papyrus as the two are brothers.
Now this works the same as the chess theory, with us running out of bosses post-chapter 5 to reference from Undertale, at least for a neutral route. The options then turn to Chapters 6 and 7 being based on the end bosses.
Chapter 6 could very well be based on Omega Flowey, if we tied it into Asgore's Flower Shop turning into a dark world, and setting up at its end the grand finale of Chapter 7. It would also follow the theme of gardening, and perhaps hobbies on a whole, as the theme of escapism.
The themes of escapism would then be: Role-playing/Toys, the Internet, TV/Movies, Music and Songs, Cooking, Gardening/Hobbies...and then finally...
Chapter 7 then refers to none other than Asriel Dreemurr himself, and it is then perhaps we face the Knight, or the vessel or perhaps Ralsei (if he is as suspicious as theorists say). This I think could be from the bunker.
That is my alternate theory for how the chapters could follow on and refer to. In cases it could take on some from the chess theory. MTT has a wheel moving positioned sideways, like a Rook would move. Papyrus, or Undyne, could refer to a knight from being of, or wanting to be of, the Royal Guard. Undyne as well could relate to the bishop, if you looked at the biblical concept of resurrection from her Undying form as reference.

Edit note: Relating to the secret bosses possibly relating to genocide bosses and hinting to the subsequent boss, with Jevil and Queen, the best I can relate is Jevil does not use a soul mode (which future secret bosses are likely to use) the same as Toriel. Jevil and Toriel also are both the respective firsts of their games, be it the first boss and secret boss.
Chapter 5's secret boss then would either relate to Chapter 6's or back to the King. Either way perhaps genocide Asgore would work, if not a proper boss, or alternatively Flowey, again not a boss. Anyways, just thought to add this as I thought of it afterwards.

[swagatbhure]

The intresting thing is that the special characters have their own portraits in the dialogue box

[gus]

The fandom when the TV is just Mike's henchman like Rouxls or Tasque Manager, and the chapter 3 boss is Mike R Wave

Also I really hope the Vessel doesn't show up because I don't know how I feel about a bald kid named "A" as a main villain.

[drakath]

I would also like to present the theory of the game moving backwards in terms of map order from UNDERTALE. We've gone from New Home/Dark Kingdom, Core/Cyber Field, Hotland+Mettaton's Game Shows/Mike being a game show host+Hell blazers making the perfect parallel for a burning city. That would leave Waterfall+True Lab/Bunker+The abyss song Onion stated recently (The dark patch is just wide enough to match the fountain opening animation's base when Kris opens one), Snowdin/Ice-E's, Ruins/Church, and Mt.Ebbott/Asgore's Shop+The Dark Mountain at the start of chapter 1.

Characters also have been mirroring this trend too in a different way. You teach Susie to stop fighting, Flowey tries to teach you to fight tooth and nail to survive (And for the most part, fails). Flowey acts as a moral compass throughout the game, The King is a moral compass for who you recruit. Queen is taught not to drag the entire world into darkness to entertain, while Mettaton is taught not to Cross the barrier, or enter the light so to speak, to entertain a wider audience. Alphys and Noelle are both taught to speak their minds.


With this in mind, our closest comparisons for Mike and future bosses are (with speculation added):

Alphys updating her status and as a result blocking your movement/Your theory of Mike being a Rook and thus blocking progress. (this one's not so clear cut since the best connecting character possible would've been Muffet, but there's been neither silk nor limb of her anywhere in Deltarune, plus tying anything to Mike would require us to learn more about Mike to begin with.)

Undyne learning to not judge a book by their cover/Everyone else learning to not judge Berdley for his actions..? (bleh, come up with a better one if you can. 3 and 4 are so open to possibilities compared to the other chapters at current moment.)

Sans judging the way you interact with his innocent brother/Everyone else judging the Knight for their crimes.

Toriel learning to accept your freedom at the risk of your own life/Noelle learning to accept Rudy and December moving on.