Sans(original) vs Undyne(original) #sans #undertale #undyne

[GoldenViolet]

only real undertale fans understand why undyne wins

[hoshimichi]

I love how Sans is the weakest character in undertale, but in his battle literally cheats, doding, attacking you out of turn, using the rules of the game against you. You literally have to break the game to win him. The only chance he would have against Undyne is with that ability that pulled op in the end before sleeping (the one that teleported your soul back) and he would get tired eventually, or Undyne would realise of the trick

[guest]

only real undertale fans know that sans even with kr stands zero chance. sans cant deal 23000 damage before tiring out (considering he also is attacked CONSTANTLY by spears) not even with karma

[TheyLuvMemory]

There's a comment with 380 replies saying sans would win because of rule bending.


All Sans can do is negate your I-Frames and add KR to it.

Undyne is a literal tank and can outlast Sans' dodges. In the original game he dodges 25 times..

Undyne uses at LEAST 30 spears in 1 string. So she's killing him in ONE attack. Low Diff.

[Alicekagura-hayabusa]

Easy explanation: undyne has far less karma making sans blasters and bones do little to nothing especially with undynes high hp, and even if undyne had the same amount of karma as the player it wouldn't matter as karma's damage only can last longer, its gonna take a while to kill undyne which almost has 30k health at 1 damage a tick

[Zhamicthedummy]

Finally someone who doesn’t think sans is overpowered

[paradoxicalHell]

Sans could still have a possible chance. He might not have kr, but he deals 30 damage every second. With enough stalling due to determination slowly killing undyne, he could win.

[cennetnaml]

info to toxic sans fans (Difficulty is not strength)

[EliteScreenDummyCNSD]

Time to hit the sans stans with some fax
First off sans isn’t that strong in this situation cuz undyne hasn’t killed anyone and he can’t use his karma effect on undyne since she hasn’t killed anyone and undyne has a lot more stamina than him and has a lot of strength so all undyne needs to do is keep on spamming her spears until sans can’t keep up anymore

[questionmark]

i'ma just say this: sans deals more than 1 dmg per second without karma.when u consider he is the only monster that doesn't give iframes. this still doesn't mean he'll win. as it will take him 12 minutes to chomp down undyne's hp without karma. and pretty sure undyne doesn't have (or atleast not alot of) any LOVE. so karma is most likely out of the question. combine that undyne can spam spears. tho not sure why people don't consider gaster blasters. they actually deal alot of dmg without karma involved. again tho still not enough time nor enough stamina. tho. there is the option he uses his special attack, being legit nothing. considering classic undertale rules there is a turn system. this may give him the ability to attack and potentially kill(tho would definetly take a long time) undyne. then again. this is really the only scenario i can see sans winning. and not even sure cuz there may be a time limit for turns. aswell as him needing to survive the fir st turn. tho he can most likely cheese it by placing 4 bones in each direction to block the spears. yet again very niche. and unlikely. undyne wins with 3/4 scenarios where she wins and sans only 1. being what i said. which is very debateable. also another point i want to state is a weak character can have a deeper, more interesting story than a super god-like character. i dislike when a video uses the words "mid" "better" "cooler" "fan favorite" as what is basically a free point. sans is liked more. does that mean he is necessarily a bad character? no. i love sans as a character way more than undyne. sans is more of a mentor than a final boss. undyne feels like ur average savior character who is thrown in. critical injury and then gets some super unrelated power boost. does that mean undyne is weaker than sans? no. sans is everywhere in the game, either to say some random joke or to break logic by having snow in a place called hotlands. his character was never meant to focus on fighting but more of someone who goes with u the entire way. aswell as to applaud u near the "end". following the mentor type. aswell as giving this feeling that the true challenge may not be as strong. but is more meaningful. e.g sans's fight. to truly become a stronger self u must become stronger than those who have trained you along the way. it breaks the threshold. this is what sans does. TLDR: yea undyne wins but the way you made it made it makes it seem like you just really really hate sans.

[Ren_Ysidro]

I'ma be honest, if seen my fair share saying sans is stronger than undyne... giving him endurance and determination... like... bro have you played undertale before?
But, this edit made me a bit more happy because undyne FACTUALLY would win.

[cultofmel]

Sans cannot dodge due to Undyne's green soul ability holding him in place.
Undyne has no KR, so Sans only would do one damage with immunity frames.
And even if Sans were to still be able to dodge, which he shouldn't. And even if Sans were to be able to use his KR ability, which he shouldn't. It would take 12.78 minutes to kill Undyne. And that's with the assumption that she is taking CONSTANT damage. And monsters have been shown to be able to dodge other monsters attacks (Asgore dodging Undyne's attacks) implying that Undyne would just be able to dodge Sans' attacks.

Undyne Wins. No Diff.

[ERRORRSANS]

Sit down for a moment explain genocide It takes a few tries to beat undyne it takes a week to beat sans But in hp and defense and durability it all goes to undyne

[crazygamingoscar]

Why tf does it say on some rule bending power scaling wiki that sans can rule bend lmao? its made some people in the comments seem like idiots because they keep saying sans can do something he can't?
e.g. edit hp
dodge before an attack is fired? he can't even do that lmao?
Like its super dumb that people just grab a random website and trust it more than the actual powers he uses in game
Just because someone uses some powers doesn't mean they're omnipotent
e.g. teleport man (made up) who can only teleport can't "edit variables to make him win any battle" - how tf do people use sans' ability to teleport as evidence?

[chadpredatorofchildren]

Sans dodges 27 attacks and then passes out
Undyne throws like 17 spears in her first attack

This isn’t even remotely fair

[BurgermanThefirst]

It's even said online it would take 12 minutes of constant attack From sans to kill undyne the undying

[Gudohadou]

No, I'll explain, many people talk about sins in genocide, but they save us, because they are also part of our lives, the whole joke of Sansa attacks is that he inflicts 1 attack many times, and it's not worth it

[aguy]

Still with karma sans getting buried for as far as we know undyne has almost no karma

[Elfsirice]

I agree with u

also does killing humans give karma? If not Undyne shouldn’t have any karma right

[UndyneTheUndying]

Defense isn’t fair, I mean I know I beat the guy but he only has 1 hp