American Reacts How did the World React to the American Civil War?

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Hi everyone! I'm an American from the Northeast (New England). I want to create a watering hole for people who want to discuss, learn and teach about history through YouTube videos which you guys recommend to me through the comment section or over on Discord. Let's be respectful but, just as importantly, not be afraid to question any and everything about historical records in order to give us the most accurate representation of the history of our species and of our planet!

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[rasmusn.e.m]

I personally feel like the death penalty is in the same vein as slavery, but a lot of people are still for it. My reasoning being that a government shouldn't be allowed to do stuff to its citizens that would be considered the most heinous crime if the citizens did it to each other. You don't get r*pe penalties either.

[chrismackett]

The anti-slavery movement really began amongst Quakers in the UK in the late eighteenth century. Whilst at Cambridge, Thomas Clarkson, who was from Wisbech where we live, was set an essay on the morality of slavery and developed a great passion for the subject, and found out as much as he could, including interviewing the crews of slave ships. The growing anti-slavery movement enlisted William Wilberforce, an MP who had already shown an interest in anti-slavery, to take the campaign into parliament, and eventually the law was passed to ban slavery. There was a film Amazing Grace a few years ago about William Wilberforce and his campaign.

[rightmunted]

The whole thing about American slavery in the 1800s was how usually cruel it was.

There's sort of a myth gaining popularity in the US that suggests US style chattaeu slavery was a normal thing at any point. Which no, the USA is more or less the only large nation in history to enforce slavery in such a way.

9.99/10 times slavery was just something that people found themselves falling victim to out of circumstance (living in newly conquered land, caught stealing ect), they'd usually have legal protections and paths towards freedom, sometimes decent pay, and their children would usually be citizens in whichever culture they're born in.

People being distinguished as slaves by their race, while being bred and sold like cattle, with no legal protections or paths to freedom.

The rest of the world saw that as strange and evil, even those who didn't see an issue with more universally conventional slavery.

It's just that up until the 1800s and uncle Tom's cabin was published, Europeans didn't know what American slavery really was.

[BulldogMackrs]

British reaction to the US civilwar can be easily summed up as. "Hey Americans you got gold then we got guns, we dont care who gets them as long as you pay" the second most common used rifle being the 1853 pattern Enfield.

[oliversherman]

Fun fact: Britain and France ended slavery in their own empires over 30 years before the Americans

[kenworthington_]

The British did punch a lot of people into realising slavery bad

[Brookspirit]

I'd imagine "The Enlightenment" led to the abolition of slavery.

[almostyummymummy]

If I'm not mistaken, a human life wasn't merely cheap, but had no value whatsoever from pretty much the beginning.

I think it was around the late Renaissance Period where the concept of a human life having some intrinsic value was birthed. I really can't pinpoint an event that set that in motion. It would be interesting to find out.

[lbewl]

The A.erican civil war is very interseting. It's the true birth of the U.S.A.

[Caambrinus]

A lot of American citizens seem to think that the impoverishment of most of their fellow-citizens is something to be desired. In Europe, we tend to think that freedom extends to everyday life, health and wealth. As long as you Americans worship wealth, nothing will change for 150m of your citizens.

[estranhokonsta]

Your question about the shift of moral views about slavery is based on the idea that slavery is essentially bad and that there is an absolute moral.

We see now slavery as so important to eradicate. And many of us talk about it as an inalienable human right.
But that was not always the same. Why?

No matter how people say that slavery is this or that, the fact is that slavery had very important functions in the old societies.

The same way that you can just look around you today and see so many things that you feel are not good, but you think that they are part of the society and they are not something that can be solved easily with just "good intentions".

See all the homeless people in the streets. IS that not despicable and disgusting? But what do you think of it when you see it in the news?

The fact is that there are many such example in our modern society all over the world.
With some luck in a hundred years, people will look back at us and wonder why we did such barbaric thing to each others in the 21th century even with all the technological advancements and all the riches all around us.

The problem of judging the past by our values is that we are taking for granted our valuers as something universal and thinking that we are better than those "savages" of the last centuries. These judgment do not show any moral high ground. They show some arrogant high noses.

All of this hints that in an alternative universe, we might still have slavery as a common thing. So why did it happen?
Many things and many people happened. Many sacrifices. That is what happened.
But maybe the most important is the technology, broader education and more quality of life for most of us where slavery no longer makes much sense to anyone.
Many reasons and many people happened.
For example one of the consequence is that the anonymous nobody have more power than they had in the old days to be more dangerous to those people who are in power. Firearms are an equalizer.

That is ... There are still some people that think not in that way and are happy to have slavery as a normal part of life. Unfortunately slavery still exist today in some parts of the world.

[micade]

About the not so glorious US History, you might like this: "How the U.S. Stole Mexico" by the excellent Johnny Harris

[oskarprotzer]

5:50 philosophy was going big in 1800s

[micade]

Connor, History buffer you should like this (is it taught in US schools? And how?): "What Happened with the French of The U.S after the Louisiana Purchase?" - Knowledgia

[kevmur]

Telegraphy was in use within Europe and North America at this time but there was no reliable transatlantic cable so news generally took a couple of weeks to cross the ocean. For example Lincoln was shot on 14th April 1865, but the news did not reach Europe until 26th April.

[laziojohnny]

Not a word on the Dutch influence on the civil war is a disgrace!
Kidding of course, but History With Hilbert did make a nice vid about it. I'll place a link of it down below.

[marcincwaniaczek]

I think it was beacuse of factories and citizens needed to work and slavery wasn't really needed

[nathanhassen]

To answer your question watch the British crusade as England did not have slavery since 1066 although was one of the biggest slave traders from and to the overseas British territories, they ultimately ended slavery for everyone

[B-A-L]

Tbh, the rest of the world was getting on with their own stuff at the time.

[andypandy]

British shipyards built ships for the CSA because they placed orders for them and as Britain was neutral they built them. The CSA did that because they lacked the facilities to build many of their own.
If The Union had placed orders those would also have been built but that didn't happen because The Union could easily build its own.
The vast majority of the British public was pro The Union. Remember that the Slave Trade had been abolished in the British Empire in 1807 and Slavery itself was abolished in it in 1833, 28 years before the American Civil War broke out and 32 years before the 13th Amendment. 🙂