RTX 5090 & 5080 😳 are complaints even valid

NVidia Performance Claims and DLSS 4 Dependence asserts that the RTX 5070 matches the performance of the RTX 4090, primarily through DLSS 4's Multi Frame Generation, which produces multiple AI-generated frames per rendered frame. Critics argue this reliance on AI-generated frames inflates performance metrics and doesn't equate to genuine hardware improvements.
THE VERGE

Limited VRAM: The RTX 5070 is equipped with 12GB of VRAM, which some users find insufficient for modern gaming demands. This limitation could hinder performance in memory-intensive applications and future-proofing.
PCWORLD

Pricing Concerns: While the RTX 5070 is priced at $549, some enthusiasts feel that the performance-to-price ratio doesn't justify an upgrade, especially considering the dependence on DLSS 4 for achieving higher frame rates.
REDDIT

Exclusive Features: DLSS 4 is exclusive to the RTX 50 series, leading to frustration among owners of previous-generation cards who won't have access to this technology without purchasing new hardware.
LINUS TECH TIPS

Marketing Critiques: NVIDIA's promotional strategies, particularly claims equating the RTX 5070's performance to the RTX 4090, have been labeled as misleading. Analysts emphasize that such comparisons often rely on specific scenarios that don't reflect typical real-world usage.
DIGITAL TRENDS

[DanDoesPC]

I just find it hilarious how DLLS is such a big problem. Yet everyone's so excited for FSR 4 which is literally the same thing 🤣🤣

[Caseohs-chair]

FSR 4 = Flirting
DLSS 4 = Harassment
😂

[lou]

the issue is using the AI frame gen as a crutch to compare performance between generational uplifts.

[GeroFPS]

I don't have a problem with dlss to be honest just hate the dishonesty with the frame gen, IMHO dlss is practical and used in lots of games and is a great thing useable in online games, framegen is not and probably will never be a viable option in online gaming. Nvidia's marketing is very scummy when it comes to that. I am someone who really just enjoys raw performance but using dlss alone will just improve that performance since I'm still getting more real fps, I hope this is not where the industry is heading where they are only focusing on a niche market in very unique situations where the tech is even viable.

[Michplay]

Just use lossless scaling and you can run your “multi frame generation” in every game and not only the DLSS 4.0 ones. You can ise it in every game with every card

[DS-blfs]

The fact that a article was released showing that the 5000 series only saves 400MB of Vram compared to a 4000 series so yeah VRAM is definitely gonna be a issue at 16GB, 5080 isn't really future proofing, might as well get a 5090

[ployth]

we won't see the real benchmarks DLSS OFF Performance until january 24 after the embargo is lifted when reviews go live for 5090

[brainiac]

I just wish the early marketing would include more pure performance metrics. But we usually have to wait for gamers nexus to get their hands on it first

[ivan-jlx]

I was having a pity party and someone came in and took a dump

[Wajang]

It will only perform like a 4090 under circumstances with AI if the game has the option to use DLSS4. That is good to keep in mind. Older games might not use it and then its not the upgrade people expect.

[adriancordovacordovarodrig]

VRAM doesn't work the same way on Nvidia, due big cache, decompression and compression features.

[moskitoh]

People love streaming 4k content, which is full of artefacts because of a low bandwidth. But they are crying because of frames generated in a different way an therefore contain some, but less artefacts? That is Just crazy!

[IshDaFish]

I think the problem is that people don’t see past their own noses. I think similar things were going around when DLSS was first being developed. Obviously for now not a lot of games will support it. Once they do, they will be an amazing experience. I’m looking forward to the experiences this tech will enable in the long run.

[harry_yt]

FSR is nowhere near as good as DLSS imo.

But personally I don’t like up scaling what so ever I prefer to play native even if that means lowering resolutions or graphics.

[KaEl-Alpha]

I am very happy with the new generation it has a great performance especially with AI 😂 Only problem I have is the pricing of Nvidia. Back a few years a GPU max cost was about $599. I just feel ripped off by the billionaires... There is no reason for but getting their bank account numbers higher.

[olekristianrannekleiv]

You have a good point, I also think it is worth mentioning that we wont be able to shrink transistors much more than we already do, if we want to squeeze out more performance, we have to look at other ways of doing it than shrinking transistors. AI optimizing GPU architecture and having built in AI features should be celebrated as a new revolution in graphics development instead of being seen as a bad development direction. same goes with frame generation(AI is here too) it is great! it is a maturing technology and highest settings gives in some cases even better visuals with more FPS and its improving every year or so. the community is having the wrong view on this and I think it is based on lack of knowledge regarding limitations rooted in physics and negative judgement of new emerging techniques to continue the performance gains.

[RalphMartinez]

How many FPS does that hoodie push? 😂😂

[EMee-iq]

Why does everyone think that 3 (RGB) colors look right. It's all an illusion, the trick is making it acceptable.

[AsianPersuationx]

I always turned on DLSS Quality when its available since my 2070 Super it looks identical to me and it really helped performance and now on my 4070 Super I am starting to turn on FG on games because to me it's making it SOOO much smoother and again I cannot really tell but I am a filthy casual mind you but even on competitive Marval Rivals I love FG because it goes from 80-90 fps to 170 fps and the micro stutter are eliminated running FG to me it's only an improvement I really like the largely improved smoothness. used FG on Marvel and Alan Wake 2 so far and it's only a huge improvement.

[GrandxxGxx]

Finally a sane person, you have gained a subscriber