Volvo & VW say rear wheel drive is MUCH better than front in EV's

Volvo & VW say rear wheel drive is MUCH better than front in EV's

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[williamwoo]

I use to race a front wheel Ford Fiesta on the tracks of Sears Pt Raceway and Laguna Sega. I was a member of SCCA. SPORTS CAR CLUB OF AMERICA. One thing was has I went around turns the front end lifted and cause my tires to spin losing speed. When I raced my Datsun 510 B Sedan the rear end would go down with no slip at all. Mr. Viking, you are correct there is better grip from a rear wheel drive going around a turn. The one advantage of a front wheel ICE car is when we are racing around a turn bumping into each other, all I had to do was keep the throttle up and steer my car back on my racing line. Thanks to the Front wheel drive I was able to prevent big accidents.

[richarda]

Apparently everyone has forgotten about the original VW air cooled version. The bug was very good in snow and easy on gas. I have seen it go up cobblestone roads in hills easily in wet or dry conditions when a Jeep had to engage 4 wheel drive.

[henrytang]

I test drove a FWD BYD SUV. Every time I floored it, the front tyres would squeak. RWD deals better with high torque motors due to weight transfer.

[deanrhodenizer]

Different opinion… Living in Eastern Canada with approximately 3-4 months of every year being the snow driving season, I have come to prefer Front-Wheel-Drive over Rear-Wheel-Drive when All-Wheel-Drive is not an option. The advantages of FWD over RWD when snow driving are:
1. Being pulled by the front wheels as opposed to being pushed by the rear wheels offers greater stability when traction is dicey. A RWD vehicle fishtails widely from side to side when the rear wheels are slipping – less of this with traction control but sometimes spinning the wheels is the only way to make progress. A similar FWD vehicle merely spins its wheels a bit more while it remains on course.
2. A FWD vehicle is easier to get un-stuck as the powered wheels can be turned from side to side to clear away snow that is restricting movement. Many times the little amount of snow that can be cleared in this manner permits enough rocking motion to occur so an escape can be made.
3. A FWD vehicle has an advantage when operating on a slippery road that is not flat side-to-side (excessively banked). The RWD slips sideways if the wheels lose traction. The same thing happens to a FWD vehicle, but this can be corrected as the powered wheels can be steered to compensate.
4. A front weight bias in FWD ICE vehicles allow better grip from the front axle. This also applies to the original VW Beetle; it was reasonably good in snow as it had a rear engine and RWD. This is not applicable for vehicle with a rear weight bias as may be the case with many EVs.

[inselberg]

Our 2019 Kona Electric is FWD (no AWD option). When we test drove a Hyundai Ioniq 5 RWD EV (on dry pavement only), we found it was less responsive when cornering, compared with our Kona FWD. In our experience, we much prefer FWD, as it tracks better . . . pulling you around turns, rather than pushing. Our Kona has way more than enough torque and acceleration in the FWD configuration.
We're interested in getting a second EV which will be AWD. . . however, we're also keeping our awesome FWD Hyundai Kona Electric!

We have driven in all kinds of weather (4 seasons) since 2019 here in southern Interior BC, Canada for a total of 70, 000 km. When climbing in slushy/slippery winter conditions we have learned to turn off traction control; to prevent slowing down too much, as less and less power goes to the FWD to prevent tire spinning. Better to control tire spinning with the accelerator in those extreme conditions, by turning traction control off.

With the centre of mass being located behind the FWD tires, closer to the middle of the Kona Electric because of the heavy battery, winter traction when climbing steep hills can be a bit more challenging. On the other hand, with top quality winter tires, like our Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 Winter Tires, our FWD does very well. The R3s have recently been improved even more, with the latest Hakkapeliitta R5 Winter Tire.

When going downhill on slippery roads with FWD it's obviously best to ease back on the level of regenerative braking, to prevent slipping and loss of steering control.

[craigm]

A lot of the advantage of FWD has to do with the heavy engines weight over the front wheels aiding in traction. I remember driving my RWD Ford Mustang in the snow some 40+ years ago, wheels spinning and fishtailing!! I could see where RWD would be ok due to the more evenly distributed weight due to battery pack location.

[trenier]

It's all hunky dory till you drive on snow and ice. I spent most of my life in the upper Midwest of the US with rear wheel drive. There were lots of times when that was not fun a all. My first front wheel drive was around 2000 and I was stunned by the difference. If I lived in a warmer climate I would want rear wheel drive hands down. It's just more fun. Fish tailing a car (now called drifting) is a hoot, I grew up with muscle cars and they were lots of fun.

[dougonutube]

I absolutely agree that rear wheel drive (or of course preferably 4-wheel drive) is much preferable to front wheel drive for EVs. We have both an MG4 and Kia e-Niro (and previously an MG ZS EV). The front wheel cars (e-niro and zs) were always wheel-spinning when you tried to use the amazing torque in the electric power train. The MG4 (rear wheel) simply puts the power straight onto the road, so it has a much higher apparent performance than the (same spec'd) e-Niro. So, for electric cars, front-wheel drive just doesn't work!

[ksrithan]

The popular and cheap MG4 is also RWD. I've heard a lot of good things about its driven dynamic.

[kabysummit]

Get right tires for the road, no matter what wheels are turning

[mikegipson]

However with just rear wheel drive this reduces the amount of re-gen you can get due to breaking effect can mean locking up of rear wheels would happen so re-gen is reduced...

[SLJ]

Pleased to have got one of the last BMW i3s made. As London gets 0-2 days heavy snow per year, very happy with RWD format for a fun EV driving experience.

[wescoleman]

I hear a lot of handwringing about how these rwd EVs will perform in snow. Having driven front, rear, and 4 wheel drive cars in snow, I can say that tires make a bigger difference than drive configuration.
Front drive is a bit better for getting unstuck, but it tends to understeer when cornering at speed more than rear drive.
Most people who have 4wd don't actually need it, and only want it due to decades of marketing from car makers trying to sell profitable SUVs. A rear drive vehicle with good winter tires is quite capable.

[petervautmans]

Rear wheel is much simpler (thus cheaper) and a bit lighter.
the vehicles also have smaller turning circles.
The advantage of front in low grip environment is partly cancelled out by advanced electronic traction control/stability control/abs

[chrvids]

I will choose front wheel or all wheel to pull/steer me out of a snowbank. For California and Florida. Rear wheel is probably fine.

[Mantaracer]

All logic as you mentioned favor the rear wheel drive and I agree 100%

[badATchaos]

Having lived in artic like conditions most of my life I've grown to apricate front-wheel drive. Front wheel drive simply does better in the snow. Other than going to all-wheel/four-wheel you can't beat it.

[gerhardk]

Front wheel drive has a real advantage when it comes regenerative braking, rear wheel drive has to dial the regenerative effect way down to prevent locking the rear wheels.

[finnurth]

Interesting! Had a M3RWD rental in Germany for 12 days. Absolutely flawless!

[markbyerlee]

Hi Sam. I am a Mechanical Engineer with over 40 years of practice. Rear wheel drive is more efficient than front wheel drive. Generally rear wheel drive is safer than front wheel drive but not always as so many factors come into play like vehicle design and how much fuel is on-board, weight distribution and the list goes on. RWD EV’s are the best solution for all of the standard cars, 4 WD if you can afford it, especially with the battery pack in the floor. Sure there are things that can make a FWD drive more driver friendly, but not as good as a RWD or 4WD. Most of the Gizmo concepts for FWD are sales rubbish. It is cheaper to build a FWD than a RWD and that’s why the do it.