Jesus' Resurrection Isn’t Original!

Jesus' Resurrection Isn’t Original! | Francesca Stavrakopoulou PhD

Is Inanna a dying and rising God figure, sorta, but a much closer analogy of a god who is swallowed by death (Mot) is Baal and this is very clear when compared typologically to Jesus. There are differences for sure, but the similarities are striking.

My Dying and Rising God video

Dr. Richard Carrier article/blog about dying and rising gods.

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[thescoobymike]

I love these short straight-to-the-point videos. They work really well in a Deconstruction playlist.

[MythVisionPodcast]

If stories of deities & mortals dying and rising from the dead have been passed down for generations well before the birth of Jesus, one must question the validity of the claim that his resurrection was a true historical event and not just another myth in the long line of similar tales.

[qarljohnson]

I believe that Richard Carriere rounded out this idea best, when he noted that early Christianity is better seen as the late on the scene Jewish version of the plethora of mystery/ personal salvation cults that thrived in the Hellenic Mediterranean.
Being that the cult of Ianna is the oldest form of these trans cultural myth organizations.

[bubbercakes]

Jesus isn’t even the first to be resurrected in the bible. When I went to bible study years ago I was so shocked I asked out loud, ” what’s the big deal if Jesus wasn’t the only one?” You could have heard a pin drop! 😮

[ricksneed]

I love how all these myth gods and personas are brought to life in StarGate SG-1.

[deeder]

As Christopher Hitchens once said, "Being raised from the dead in those times was something of a banality it occurred so frequently."

[AdeleCeleste]

My mom is a die-hard Nicean, and these stories of earlier dying and rising gods won't change her mind. She says that God wrote the story of Jesus in the stars at the beginning of Creation and Adam and his descendants knew all this prophecy, but over the years the stories got distorted into tales of other gods in various cultures. That is a lot to assume, but that's the Christian explanation to these earlier and similar stories to what is in the Bible.

[danohanlon]

Some four-hundred years before Christ, a real historical person, “Zalmoxis” (a student of Pythagoras and principal canal-engineer to Darius the Great in Egypt and who later became the god of the Dacians (Northern Thracians / present day Wallacia) is also recorded as having risen from the dead.

[danohanlon]

The Dacian god, *Zalmochis* (Zalmoxis”)—the “Thracian Yoker”—who, curiously, also exhibits many of the characteristics of Orpheus—and who may yet prove to be the original vampire—convinced his people that they could “Live forever.” To prove it, he had them seal him up in a cave and three (years) later he “rose from the dead”—six-hundred years before Christ. He was also the originator of the first “Single Book.”

[UniquenessInIslam]

Jesus didn’t die

Jesus says Matthew 12:39

But Jesus replied, “Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign; but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah

Matthew 12:40

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Clearly shows Jesus didn’t die he was alive just like Jonah 3 days and 3 nothing belly of a huge fish and Jesus was alive in the tomb 3 days and 3 night

The church priests misunderstood Jesus people misunderstood Jesus teachings

Because Jesus spoke parables yet they misunderstood him

[maxsrandomvideos-]

I used to believe that there was a historical Jesus that was much different from religious Jesus. Now I’m convinced that the idea of Jesus as a whole is inspired by many things. One of them maybe being an actual man, maybe not even named Jesus, but someone who was crucified or was a criminal that maybe had a reputation but was a stranger to most people and the death of a random man built lore around him and they incorporated stories of other religions. No one has ever told a story of the first person they met him nor is there evidence from anyone of that time period that anyone did anything significant other than the books of the Bible. Perhaps the evidence has been long destroyed along with many other things. I’m not even sure if there is evidence that the disciples existed either though there is stories of their deaths. Let me know if there’s info I’m missing!

[stephannaro]

What a treasure Dr Stavrakopoulou is. I wonder if she's written a book laying out the various earlier versions of stories and ideas found in the bible. Or maybe someone else has?

[danohanlon]

So was the god of the Dacians (Northern Thracians), Zalmochis, —who “was buried and rose from the dead” *six-hundred years* before Christ. He was the principal God of the Dacians for a thousand years afterwards.

There is a good bit of evidence to suggest that the story of Zalmochis (Gk: Zalmoxis)—who, as a student of Pythagoras was indeed a real historical figure) provides the origins of the myth of Dracula, as well as the (later, added) details of the Greek myth of Orpheus.

[imustkeepremindingmyselfofthis]

The text is translated as her being made a corpse. A corpse is a dead body, by definition. That alone convinces me that Inanna was dead when going into the underworld. Stavrakopoulou seemed to be hesitant to consider Inanna as “dying and rising” because she seems to interpret it as a “hunk of meat”, but yes, that is what a dead body is.

[tfmtrueformmotivations]

Just picked up Dr. Francesca's book, came in the mail today, really hefty size, looking forward to it. So it's fitting this video was on my pop up list to watch. talk about divine providence, lol anywho, I studied this subject from academic resources in the late 90's early to mid 2000's and while pop culture might call everything from Egypt to the Americas concerning the gods dying and rising as "resurrection" stories. Scholars and apologist who study the material do not have that same conclusion. it is fair to say that there is disagreement on whether certain god myths can be correctly called "resurrection" or dying and rising. Mark Smith says and Jonathan Smith say no, he (Baal) do not fit that criteria or term. where as others hold he does. So there is no agreement and even some stories later (after the birth) of Christianity added a dying and rising (in some form). the reality is, that as the Bible says, there is nothing new under the sun, so all men (mankind) have things (life and all its concerns) in common and so it shouldn't be surprised that you would/will find similar even nearly exact styled stories of myths (stories of the gods). the culture was very similar in many ways. so it goes back to what I mentioned in the video with Richard Carrier. Concerning history whether you accept what is claimed about it or not is a matter of belief. because there is so many nuances, and missing pieces of information, it is not a black and white issue. Great video

[apologeticsa-zasiteforseek]

Very interesting post. By the way, Derek, your closed captions are sometimes wildly inaccurate. Do you need some help with transcription?

[amandaallen]

Jesus was the first one to raise himself from the dead..he raised Lazurus from the dead before hand though..

[oldowl]

Last year I slept for three days straight and then I rose again. It was just depression.

[ViktorEngelmann]

I'm not an expert on sumerian language at all, but my hunch is, that Inanna isn't turned into a corpse (lit: she enters beat/dead meat thing). I think the line means that she enters mortal flesh - a human body (I GUESS that "mortal" is another possible meaning for sag-ga). And then afterwards she is killed by hanging that mortal flesh on a wooden "gag". Whatever "gag" means, my hunch is that it means the same thing as "Stauros" (the thing that was used to kill Jesus - which is today translated as "crucifix", although nobody knows for sure what it means).

[theflyingdutchguy]

like most mythology's and legends, they are usually never original. its always at least based on an older story. like the flood of the bible likely being based of the flood of gilgamesh or many other stories from other cultures. and where probably all local floods. but when your world isnt that big it seems like the entire world is flooddd