Speeding and the '10% plus 2 Rule'. What you Need to know! | BlackBeltBarrister

Is there really a legal allowance of 10% plus 2 for Speeding?

Many people think there is a rule that allows you to drive 10% plus 2 over the speed limit, but this is a dangerous assumption with serious consequences. There are "Guidelines" that suggest Police may exercise discretion but this is NOT built into legislation.

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[n-steam]

"Set cruise control and leave it there".
Come visit North Wales... Two speed limit changes every ½ mile or your money back.

[EdMcF]

It always astonishes me when I see reports a professional footballer on, say, £10k a week pleading 'exceptional hardship' when they could easily afford a chauffeur for 6 months or even taxis.

[bbl]

I was caught speeding by a radar speed gun about 20 years ago. The copper gave me a break and with it, a warning (no speeding fine for me). Ever since that day, I (with the aid of my cruise control) do 30 in a 30, 40 in a 40 (I'm sure you get the picture), whenever it is safe to do so.

[casinodelonge]

As part of my job, I had to go out with the motorway cops every 6 months or so to keep my accreditation valid, and I wasn't a policeman. They were excellent and said to me stuff like, if youre doing less than about 85 and not driving like an idiot, we'd probably leave you alone, and that they wouldn't usually run patrols at rush hour as it would just lead to a huge wedge of traffic travelling behind them. I found their attitude and point of view very pragmatic and sensible, that was 20 years ago

[Chrisable]

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[raymondfarrimond]

Back in the early 2000s a police traffic information van parked on Tescos car park. I got talking to the sergeant who was in charge of the speed camera control room. He told me that they allowed 10% +1 and you got a FPN at 10% + 2. He then pointed out that this was policy not law and you could still get a FPN for any speed over the limit depending on road conditions and manner of driving.

[ade]

Here's a tip that has worked for me a couple of times. If you are stopped for speeding at just over the limit, be polite and remorseful to the policeman! They are much more likely to be lenient, and just give you a warning😀

[royksk]

An excellent video. Too many drivers still think that the 10+2 rule is a given.
For several years now, I have set my cruise control pre-sets at 32, 52, 62 and72 mph as I know that my speedometer is set at +2mph by the manufacturer. This can be checked through digital speed signage and when I'm driving at a particular speed the sign will invariably show 2mph lower than my speedo. In my younger years I drove fast, rather stupidly, now I’ve mellowed and although I'll speed up a little or pull over to let others overtake on country roads, I drive much more slowly so that I can appreciate the scenery and still be aware.

[demosthenes]

I think this may be down to the fact that all speedometers calibrated in cars for sale in Europe show a positive variance of approx 10% between calibrated speed and your actual speed. A sat nav that shows your speed based on GPS is actually more accurate.

[siraff]

Instead of cruise use the speed limiter function if you have it. Cruise tends to push you at the limit and relies on you to disengage it. If you use the limiter you just drive normally and can't go over the limit. That means you're much less likely to hold speed on bends/etc since you're still using your judgement rather than an arbitary speed limit.

[buggs]

For me 20, 30 & urban 40 limits are sacrosanct. The NSL is, flexible.

[daveo]

I have no problem with appropriate speed limits but everything against inappropriate ones. 20 years ago I was in the bar of my club when a guy I know who is a magistrate asked a councillor why they had lowered the speed limit on the road near his house, he replied there had been a death. He answered that the driver had had a heart attack, the councillor said “are yes but we need the money”. A senior policeman there said that’s what you get when the fines go into the county council coffers. He said when his CPO put forward at a conference upping the motorway speed limit as the most common cause of death on motorways is not speeding but drivers falling asleep, second, bad driving, he was politely told to go away.

[Neds_Severed_Head]

I got pinged by a fixed camera doing 34 in a 30. I was offered the driver awareness course. It was surprising how many people on the course didnt know basic rules for speed limits, road signs etc.

[matthewcunningham]

Fully agree with you regarding speed limits, that's great advice too! Your channel is brilliant and thank you.

[PaulMorris-UK]

The assignment of speed limits is becoming increasingly arbitrary. The are 20/30/40 limits being applied to open roads where there is no reason to. There has been no change to the road, nor to the roadsides (no new turnings or buildings, or any history of serious accident) and yet the limit is arbitrarily dropped. As a result, people do not stick to them. If they want speed limits to be observed they should apply a sensible speed limit to the road. The majority of people would observe it then...

[stevemcilroy]

Excellent. I attended a speed awareness course, thinking it would I was pleasantly surprised, to learn, at the few miles per hour over the limit, and the accident associated with it. One accident involved a child being killed. Wide open road, no parked cars or trees obscuring view of the driver, it just happened so quick. The driver was a trained police driver, 35 in a 30 MPH.

[chompeyboy]

Hi mate, the only way to not get a speeding ticket is you can't speed. I live in Victoria, Australia, and I think we have some pretty tough speeding laws. They impound at 45Kph+, send you a photo fine for 3Kph over the limit. We have soooo many speed cameras, fixed and mobile, point to point timed cameras. I use a GPS HUD and cruise control. Not tickets in 7/8 years. It actually makes you a safer driver. I'm 54 and spent most of my driving life dodging radar and the cops on patrol, but if you drive within the law, they ignore you. I gave up drinking, one reason was drink driving. The only way to beat the breathaliser is you can't drink and drive. I was a piss head. I needed you in my younger life, but not now. Top work, I really enjoyed watching.

[aabsc]

I got a motorcycle license recently and as a new motorcycle rider I have virtually no demerit points or room for any error or I lose my license. I have never stressed so much about speed limits in my life, absolutely no one drives the speed limit at least where I am, they all go about 20% above (60km/h in a 50 zone) so I'm constantly torn between going the limit and pissing absolutely everyone off, or go 60 like everyone else and worry I'll lose my license. I tend to go 55-58, I think it's a good balance between not pissing others off and not risking a ticket.

[naetharu]

I work for a civil engineering company that maintains the road networks. We have massive issues with people speeding in areas where works are taking place. We had one of our staff killed just a few months ago due to this. I really appreciate the emphasis on sticking to the limits here. They're there for a reason.

[ragabufragsome]

It would be more helpful to change the speed limit past schools. 8am to 4pm should be 20 mph after it should go to a 30 mph because driving 20 while no one is there is annoying and it can slow down traffic behind. I often get people driving close to my bumper when I am in a 20mph zone and no pedestrians are around. As a new driver it is worrying because of the road rage you feel pressured and panic making things worse.