Personality Types And Religion

In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about personality types and religion and unpack which personalities are more likely to leave or stay with religion.

IN THIS PODCAST YOU'LL FIND:

What’s the relationship between personality types and joining religious movements? Are there some that aren’t compatible with religion? Do certain types leave their religion?
What personality types have the tendency to gravitate to certain religions?
Externally structured– are surrounded with organization and various methodologies (for example: actual buildings that you worship and certain sacraments that you follow).
Internally experienced – some people have much more comfort in expressing their religion internally. These people are not interested in external markers and have that sense of private worshipping processes of expressing their faith.
Baptists
Have the tendency to be individual expression-oriented in the religious faith. Personal salvation is big. If they don’t like what the pastor or minister is saying, they’ll simply just move to the next church and they’ll look for someone who’s more in alignment with how they feel.
Attract a lot of feeler-perceivers because it’s about your personal faith expression and personal salvation.
Presbyterians
A lot more organized as a collective and structure-oriented. The congregation’s a lot systematized.
Attract a lot of feeler-judgers and thinker-judgers.
Accuracy people (TPs) have the highest likelihood of leaving religion in general. Oftentimes they leave early (teen years). If there is something they can convert/move on with, it usually is Buddhism. Why Buddhism? Because it does not require them much faith or submission to established systems. Buddhism is more inclined on practices, meditations and exercises.
Intuitives V Sensors
Intuitives do speculative thinking – things that can’t be proven by reality.
Sensors – more interested on what can be verified
Intuitives tend to be the one’s leaving religion at some point.
Intuitives are the ones who are comfortable with redefining.
Understand that no group is entirely representative of those who do or don’t describe themselves as religious.
Whatever is your dominant cognitive function (driver process), if you are in a religion that doesn’t honor it or allow full expression, eventually you will leave that religion.
If your driver process has full expression of your religious belief, you’re probably stay in the religion for a long time.
Ask yourself:
Is this truly serving me or just leading me to unhappiness?
How can we make sure that we haven’t outsourced our belief system?
What tools and models can we gather in order to take a deeper look at the structure of what we think and believe?
Let’s celebrate each other’s differences and cultural backgrounds.


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[Helbereth]

So, essentially, as an INTP, it probably isn't surprising that I've distanced myself entirely from religion since my teenage years. Not that it's necessarily predictable, but it's a fact for me. It's really difficult for me to have so-called faith in any system that I can't reason out logically, and since all I have to go on is stories from a book written by people about supernatural beings of which no concrete evidence exists (Christianity), the only positive factor I can find in a religion is if its membership consists of people with whom I would like to interact... and in my experience no such religious group exists.

The real question is how I explain that to my mother...

[traditionalgirl]

(ISFP) The more I learn about my Catholic faith the stronger my faith is. It definitely is the foundation of my life and it keeps me stable. I left the Church in college but returned and it WAS a very personal journey. But once I appreciated it I quite willingly subjected myself to its Dogmas. All religions are not equal. The RCC is Christ’s Church and so has survived 2000 years, incomparable, despite sinful men. I can go deeper and deeper and it has answers.

[Indi_Waffle_Girl]

Wow, this makes a lot of sense for me as a feeler perceiver! grew up religious, but then I sort of, like, outgrew it. That doesn't mean people who stay are worse or better off than me...it was just that, religion wasn't serving me the same way it used to. So now I just kinda do my own thing and I'm exploring the overlapping between science and belief and seeing where the facts are and how I feel about things.

Also, Antonia when you talk about having depression when you felt stuck in your religion, and also how people will take their own life because of this feeling...augh I can so totally empathize! It's like, your mind is telling you that something is wrong. Something is off, for you personally, for your own needs. And then if you ignore it, the pain starts manifesting in your body with physical symptoms and no one knows what's going on and how you got so sick. It's like, your brain and body are forcing you to accept what is right for you.

[julieolson]

Thank you for your enlightening insights. I've spent a lifetime being troubled about my reaction to churches. It seems the only sanctuary in which I could hear Him was an empty one. I'm a retired critical care nurse who worked nights, so I was able to spend many lunch breaks in empty hospital chapels. Now I live alone, so I can escape to my home for worship. Religious studies don't affect me the same way for some reason. INFP.

[boz]

As a INTJ I love studying Systematic Theology

[VincentvanFlow]

I'd love to see what the personality trend is in Eastern Orthodox Christianity.

[yemijimo]

Even though, I kind of agree that thinkers are the least likely to gravitate towards the idea of 'faith'. On the flip side, the so-called feelers are the most likely to misunderstand the mysterious concept of faith. This is because faith in itself defies logic or reason and is not connected to any emotion.

Reason, logic, intellect, emotions, feel all reside in the human mind or psyche (basically the soul) where the physical body is just an interface to connect the abstract to reality; whereas the spirit is much deeper and this is where things like faith, truth, even the purest essence of love and quite possibly intuition stem from. However, all three are the main components of every human being.

Like a Venn diagram, Intuition, I personally believe lies where the spirit overlaps with the soul. Reason/logic and feel are the extremes of the spectrum, but faith somewhat lies in the middle or perhaps transcends beyond this spectrum. I hope this makes some sense.

[emlillthings]

S-types could be more inclined for the long haul, because it's more a matter of authority. (ie: if a religion has duped enough people, s-types might be more inclined to allow themselves to be duped)

[novaimperialis]

I'm an intuitive feeler and I love Orthodox Christianity!
I may not agree with every decision that the higher ups make, but the essence of it is very deep.
I like it because every big saint that shaped it was an intuitive or a thinker.
I don't like structure that much but I love the fact that those saints validates my perceptions on it.
The best thing about the Church is that it has both structure and mysticism, the latter one which I lean much more to, otherwise I would have quit it long ago. But this kind of balance shows me that it has the Truth in it as everything is in perfect order and without the mystical component I think that I could have killed myself because I would have had no were to go. If you have depression, the Orthodox Church, which is both universal(not to be confused with the universal Catholic Church) and Orthodox=right, will help you to stay in track until help will come.
And if you like guru's, which I listened to one of them, you would love to hear the desert fathers take on mysticism and dogma. Their perspective has more depth than everything that I have seen so far.
There is just a lot of wisdom and you will never know enough of it even if you try your best. It is the perfect place for self development and true transcedence.
Those kept me in track until now.
Personality hacker, please, make a video about
Orthodox Christianity!

[novaimperialis]

Also, my favourite process is the accuracy one, as you show greater love for someone because you want his transcedence.
This makes me to think a lot about the holly fathers that let their disciples to struggle a bit. They showed them love but in a subtle way.
Although as an INFP I don't see why this process resonates more with me than the authenticity one. I thought that it may be because I'm in my super-ego which is the ISTP and that leads with the accuracy one.
Also, with the harmony and the accuracy one I resonate much more than with the other two.
I value honesty(from me and other's) and loyalty much more than anything else. Which would result in a combination of use of the cognitive processes.
And from the authenticity one I just took the observation part, but I hate the isolation part for it when it comes to me or other's.
Is this because of the purpose that this belief system gives me or what?
Although, before my depression, I was the opposite of what the authenticity process implies, I was more on the harmony and accurcy spectrum than anything else.
Personality hacker, can you explain this to me?

[NDAsDontCoverIllegalActs]

My personality type is Don't Ask Me To Join Your Religion™ and if you insist you won't like what I say about it. 😊

[pierangelobuscema]

can you recommend a religion for an estp?

[johnthebaptist]

I like this podcast, but the perspective seem to be focused on how people view organized religion. Organized religion is not the same as God .
Organized religion serves personality types, but God does serve personality. types. Whatever your personality type is not God's concern. If any person goes to a church and says this church or religion does fit my personality type then they have the different concept of faith.

[johnthebaptist]

To think that religion will not offend is
Offensive. If you truly understand religion it's offensive.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Matthew 10:35

[levanahbatlila]

Why no mention of the Jewish religion?