Hunter Is SO MUCH Better Now: The War Within Hunter Rework

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Hunter finally gets their War Within rework after so long, and it's real promising.
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I liked MoP-WoD hunter the best honestly. A lot of the Legion specs felt good during Legion, because they were new and different and had the artifacts supporting them, but every expansion since I've missed the pre-legion specs more and more. A big part of why is that many modern specs feel like they do 1000 things poorly, rather than just a few things well. Like now, casting Aimed Shot fires off wind arrows, ricochets, applies a DoT, you name it... whereas before you used to just get a lock and load proc and just shoot off an instant aimed shot.

Somehow the simplier thing felt better. I'd see one big number instead of 500 small numbers I can barely read, and I felt like more of an actual ranger shooting arrows instead of a machine gun.

hyrelia
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With survival I will take the Explosive Shot over the Wildfire bomb personally.
I WOULD have liked a dual wield option like Rexar and possibly instead of a death chakram we could throw axes but eh what can ya do

michealwatts
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So with the change to Dire Beast I'm betting we lose the Dire Stable glyph. Every expansion, every rework, Hunter loses more of its customisation options, and we haven't had new ones since Legion.

Candlemancer
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The biggest needed change... You should be able to choose your pet's spec.

Streaming_Music
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After playing Cataclysm classic I want original Survival hunter back.

DarkkLestat
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I dont play hunter much but what I think they should do is:

MM - You are your pet, give him lust when he has no pet etc., but I think he should be played also with pet. Otherwise I think he is OK.

BM - You should be pet master, but pets now feel IMO like just passive DMG. Something like different pets do different thinks could be cool. Bringing back Pets with different stats and abilities that matter, for example why dark ranger have bonus shadow DMG for pet, what pet does shadow DMG? Gameplay should be about commanding your pet army and your build should not be only talents but your pet roster. That comes with instant pet summoning or you summon your secondary pets for their abilities and they should not share CD for their ability if it is not the same one.

Sur - Just give him dual wielding and maybe something like DH momentum where they use disengage to leap back and do range DMG for while and charge back to do melee. For example Red Mage from FFXIV.

jbrnicky
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Warlords of Draenor for sure. Movement that MM had with the cool trinket from Archimonde in the last tier that increased ur dmg the further you stood as well as big numbers. Loved it so much, nothing hits as the same as that spec did for me.

remirra
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can't believe we still don't have survival dual wielding :(

duckbread
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My favorite time and style of Hunter was the Burning Crusade Survival Hunter. I always loved the job of crowd control and dps and precision misdirection pulls.

garyblackwell
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Feral Druid is one the worst specs in my books. That energy regen sucks so much now ;( Slowboat dotter.

StoneLegion
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I have only ever mained MM Hunter, so I'm really glad to see these changes! I was scared for a hot minute there lol

livingsoul
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I think the legion survival rework was a huge mistake. They should have instead baked the melee play style into BM. After all Beast Mastery should invoke the feeling of Rexxar, a Beast Master. Survival is better focused on traps, bombs, special arrows like it used to be. BM should be the only spec with abilities like Kill Command and Flanking Strike, survival shouldn’t be a pet-required spec

sagenod
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Probably not popular, but I loved Cataclysm era Survival, was so much DPS.

JohnMcBeth-tn
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Guess I’ll be switching mains. Tired of Blizzard over-complicating hunters. They really miss the mark between challenging and fun sometimes.

eisande
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as someone who has mained a BM Hunter since BC, probably Wrath when Spirit beasts were introduced and you could Access your stable basically from anywhere
if you were a BM who was lucky enough to grab a spiritbeast and then pumped yourself to the eyes with stamina you were basically almost un-killable, I had quite a few friends back then
including a DK who really wanted me to do PvP with him, we dueled in a stalemate for almost half an hour before we called the duel off in a tie, he was a min-maxed BLOOD DK and couldn't out damage my self preservation, I was THAT hard to kill.
this Difficult to killness was capped off with me surviving what was going to be a total raid wipe against a critical health'd Yogg Saron with Skoll (who I named Stormfang) at my side and being able to hold on long enough to kill him, and then Promptly died of Debuff after he did. was affectionately nicknamed "Baby Jebus Christ" for a week by my Guildies after that moment.

Blizz needs to make Spirit beasts Ferocity again, they are not good tank pets and are incredibly squishy, having a short regen-heal and having a protective bubble are not the same, if a spirit beast dies its because its hunter is being mobbed and it had to use its heal to protect them with exhilaration on cooldown. fortitude of the bear kind of offsets it but tank pets aren't supposed to be squishy, spirits beasts are Ferocity level squishy sans the leech to support them.

hopefully the hero talents get buffed up a bit from what Ive seen my best option is basically just Passives. Im happy I get to Keep my Crows though, I really love that spell. not so happy about loosing stampede, its really useful in Legacy content since I dont really have an AOE because I HATE USING TRAPS.

BlueFireDrakka
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BM-Hunter in BFA is king.
The Azerite traits Rapid Reload, Primal Instincts and Heed my Call was awesome fun.

VenatorYT
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"Blizzard doesn't leave classes behind a whole expansion"

Yeah all shaman mains would like a word with you. But it is typical that we are forgotten

MrWiggles
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when will they let survival dual wield? every hunter NPC ingame using melee dual wields.

Vasili
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I loved cata sv and mop sv, but melee sv became my favorite spec especially after double tap cheese was removed from mm. Glad its not been abandoned

jacobsadler
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I will never forgive them for making Survival a melee spec. Ranged survival was fun to play.

sekurity