This Rocks and Crocodile Theory Could Break One Piece

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[queenflowers]

SENPAI NOTICED ME! Excellent video, btw!

While I'm not exactly a fan of the theory of Crocodile having once been a woman, I feel that you have done the best job by far for providing evidence and justifying it's story relevance.

Again, I appreciate the shout-out. And I love hearing your ideas on the theory of Crocodile being Xebec's child. I'm happy to see this theory gaining some traction.

[three-day-trip]

This is my new favorite Crocodile theory! Him being 8 years old during God Valley is so significant especially since that's when Rocks most likely died. Shiraoshi, Robin, Momo, Sanji all lost a parent or was separated at the age of 8. Thanks for the shout out Dak!

[BeaPlot]

One thing worth noting about this is also cross guild's connection to Shanks. Both Buggy and Mihawk have extremely notable relationships with Shanks. Buggy is Shanks' brother (more or less) and Mihawk is Shanks' former rival. If Oda brings cross guild into conflict with the Red Hair pirates, two out of the three Cross Guild members are going to have significant history with Shanks, but not Crocodile? The symmetry of that is off balance unless Croc knows Shanks in a very memorable way too.

I also always thought it strange that Croc just lets Buggy join him and Mr. 1 on the door when they are escaping Impel Down, especially because even Mr. 1 points it out as being weird that he's there and all the other prisoners have to wait for Jinbei's whale sharks to take them to the navy ship. (545)

I reread impel down and marineford and a couple of other things stuck out to me.
1. Buggy knows Croc at a glance but doesn't know Jinbei. Why would Oda have Buggy recognize one Shichibukai but not another one? (546)
2. Croc seems to know of Buggy's relationship to Shanks. When everyone else reacts and gets a line of dialogue, Croc just stands there unimpressed. (549)

also the cover image of 862 has Buggy and Shanks on board the roger pirate ship playing cards with an anthropomorphic crocodile, which is maybe nothing, but also potentially Oda deliberately obscuring Croc's image as to not spoil a reveal

[michaelimbriale]

The fact that ivan is confirmed to be oon god valley helps this theory alot

[Comuniity_]

It would be hilarious if Crocodile is revealed as Rocks D. Crocodile to the strawhats and everyone is like "WHAT?!" Except Robin because she already knew of course she would

[Deebus]

Interestingly, xebec is the name of a type of ship. Is this on purpose because rocks is related to pluton? Is that why crocodile was was concerned with pluton? Xebec ships were used mostly by the Barbary pirates, from the Middle East, which in the OP universe is Alabasta. Is that why croc was in alabasta? Blackbeards ship name, sabre of xebec, is named after a weapon and a ship, a sabre and a xebec. Is Blackbeard after pluton?

[animeko]

This works for me for one simple reason: Oda references 70s music all the time, so why not "Crocodile Rock".

[samfisher]

I dont know about this theory but I do like how it ties in the "Crocodile is gender-swapped" and treats it seriously. Croc being Rocks' kid would be a legitimate reason to ask for a gender-swap and not just a dumb meme.

[piratekingszn]

oh yeah, I like this one!
the way you broke down the marineford scene like that, really made me think.
not to mention the parallels between croc and ace was HITTING!

[zmp]

Your point about Luffy, Ace and Crocodile all being present at Alabasta actually supports an Idea I've been thinking about: Dragon being at God Valley. If Alabasta is meant to parallel God Valley in a way then it would make sense if the fathers of those three characters were all present. Long story short, I think whatever Dragon saw at God Valley is what radicalized him against the World Government.

[ImchautzuCHAUTZU]

One thing that could make the Teach Crocodile parallel work is if BB simply Carrie’s his will while Croc is the daughter. Ace was Rogers son but Luffy is the one carrying his will. Ace, Rogers son, fought the guy carrying Xebek’s will and lost, while Luffy(rogers will) fought Croc(Rocks son/daughter for the full inversion) and won.

[mrbubbles]

Croc honestly was Luffy’s greatest villain.

Croc impaled Luffy, left him fa living corpse, thrpugh him in a pit, watched the put cover over and waited a while to see if he would come back.

Like Pel he should have been dead. Again impaled.

His crew or friends did not save him.

The only reason he survived was because Croc was betrayed by Robin, at the time, basically the second most important person in his organisation.

No other Pirate, not even Kaido, did that

[zmp]

I think your point about Crocodile's reaction to Whitebeard's words to Squard is really interesting under the context of him possibly being Rocks' son. His other parallels with Ace are also really interesting. I especially never put together that they looked so similar as kids.

[LewReviews]

Cant deny this theory is one of the best i have seen in years absolutely stacked with information

[stevelucky]

I just realized, that would be a HUGE excuse as to why Crocodile never specked into haki. “Enough Haki undoes devil fruit abilities” if Crocoboy was a crocogirl and Rox was the parent, that much haki potential could make even a little Haki training undo Ivankov’s DF. Blowing the cover. 🧠 so crocodile could only spec into DF and had to defend/fight that way.

Edit: also if Crocoboy is fighting Sanji and becomes Crocogirl that would put sanji at a MAJOR disadvantage.

[TheSunsetHero]

now that you point this out, the sketch Oda did for fem Crocodile looks strikingly similar to Robin.

[erwinsmith]

So glad I discovered this vid, there are so many things i didn't notice before! I want to add something that might increase the credibility of this theory.

Kaido and Blackbeard have connections with Rocks. Kaido being his former crew's apprentice and Blackbeard by naming his ship "Sabre of Xebec". Both of their goals are about creating a powerful nation of pirates where the strongest pirates rule, so strong that they are able to rival World Government. However, that goal is not very unique in the One Piece world. The first ever pirate to be shown to have this goal isn't even them—it's Crocodile with his Operation Utopia.

I'd argue that Crocodile and Alabasta's true parallel isn't Doflamingo and Dressrosa, it's Kaido and Wano. Kaido is actually the one who's the successful version of Crocodile (though Kaido's plans didn't really succeed either, did they?). I still think Croc and Doflamingo are similar, but only in their personalities. The events of Dressrosa don't accurately mirror Alabasta that much (people like to equate them most just because Crocodile and Doflamingo were Shichibukai)

Crocodile and Kaido:
- When they first arrived in those countries, they didn't take over them right away. They spent more than 10 years for their plans. And the plan includes humiliating each country's supposed ruler for years (Cobra with the Dance Powder incident and the whole civil war; Oden with dancing like a looney for years)
- Alabasta and Wano are very closely tied to the Void century. Dressrosa does too, but it doesn't stick out that much. For Alabasta, we now know the Nefertaris are D clan. Wano people created the poneglyphs and shut themselves out to protect Pluton. They are also most probably allies of Joyboy.
- They aren't natives to the countries they want to take over, unlike Doflamingo who came from Donquixote, the first rulers of Dressrosa
- Crocodile and Kaido most likely chose their countries for the ancient weapon they were told those countries hold, and it's the same ancient weapon: Pluton
- Vivi and Momonosuke both went away from their island to find ways to bring down the evil pirates. Then, they encounter the Straw Hats along the way. They went on an adventure with them for some time until they actually return to their home countries to finally go after the big bad evil pirates. (Also, the scene where Kaido holds a trembling Momonosuke from a high place to threaten him? Crocodile did it first with Vivi.)
- Luffy needed to fight the main villains at least three times before coming out winning (in at least one of them for each villain, he really, really was nearing death before something saved him).
- I probably didn't remember this correctly but i think so far there's only two people Luffy has said "I will surpass you" to: Crocodile and Kaido (and Big Mom who's beside Kaido). And they really are the two "big ceilings" Luffy had to break, Crocodile being his first Shichibukai and Kaido his first Yonko. In return, i think both Crocodile and Kaido has grudging respect for Luffy.
- There's a panel of Kaido that you included in the video, the one where he said "But pirates will betray you. When they know you'll lose, they will abandon you and sail away". This exact point was actually first brought up by Crocodile all the way back in Alabasta, and the words he used is very similar to Kaido's. It feels like this is something they were taught, and most likely by the same person.

Something that also tickles my mind a lot is Crocodile and Blackbeard's exchange in Impel Down. It's just weird to my eyes. Maybe it's because Crocodile who is notorious for being so prideful to a fault, doesn't react negatively seeing the nobody from Whitebeard's ship that replaced his position in the Shichibukai ranks. It probably means nothing, and I'm just weird. But, with Blackbeard being said to be the inheritor of Xebec's will, isn't it funny that it can mean he has 'replaced' Crocodile's position twice? The blood son not inheriting the father's will has been done in One Piece. And Crocodile did have a moment of with Ace, saving his 'compatriot' in the same boat.

Tl;dr Kaido and Blackbeard are connected to Rocks. Crocodile has similarities to both of them. The red string that connects the three of them might be Rocks D. Xebec

p.s I'm sorry this is so messy, just have to get these out of my mind. I think there are more points i can note but i only remember these right now

[DarkMeyer]

Wow your theory is insane, why Rocks is an organization of individuals that wanted to create their own Utopia and when Xebec died, all of them splitted up and created their own version of Utopia.

Whitebeard - Family Utopia
Big Mom - For all races
Kaido - For all beast that were hunted by others
Shiki - His own Utopia where he ruled everyone
Crocodile - Unknown kind of Utopia... following in his father's footsteps

[myuk]

one of my fav theories for the *past couple years* (even wrote about it on tumblr a few months ago, even including Dufeld taking in Croc, but nobody reads tumblr posts)..

but like, if you think Dragon is Xebec's Clone.... Just think about Logue Town. Croc seeing some dude walking around with his DEAD father's face.

[Mooglatan]

This theory is fucking great, there's a few more points I thought of to go along with it.

Firstly, BaROCK Works.

Secondly, the trust issues Croc has could be related to Rocks abandoning him at the age of eight to then never come back. Additionally it could be influenced by Dufeld if that was his father figure, as he's a loan shark which exploit people's trust. And there's the connection between loan SHARK Dufeld and CROCODILE, both very similar animals, sharks being for the sea and crocodiles being for smaller bodies of water, just like how Croc's sand is just smaller Rocks. So like, both his animal and his power represent smaller versions of both his father figures.

The smoke on Rocks' jolly roger could be because Rocks smoked, like Crocodile.

Crocodile has a bunch of connections to the Revolutionary Army. The Baroque Works flag looks very similar to the RA's. The first okama in the series was on Crocodile's crew, and the RA is heavily tied to the okamas, currently setting up their base at Peach Island. He tried to overtake Alabasta by literally inciting a revolution among the people to overthrow the King which is the RA's strategy, the connection to Ivankov, and his desire for the Ancient Weapons possibly being inspired by the RA's desire to destroy the WG, and the Ancient Weapons are the main thing the WG worries about for things that could destroy them. And of course Crocomom. Imo he was a revolutionary that was excommunicated, foreshadowed by Dragon taking great offence to the idea of someone trying to kill Cobra, and Crocodile actually trying to do just that, as well as the parallel with Dragon's fruit being a bringer of rain and Crocodile being allergic to the rain. Point is, Dragon is basically the closest thing to the modern day Rocks, so it makes sense why Croc would initially try to join him.

Rocks trying to take down, and ultimately dying to, the Celestial Dragons would recontextualise a lot of stuff with Crocodile. His unexplained history/dislike of Doflamingo, a Celestial Dragon. His dislike of Buggy, in 1058 threatening to sell him into slavery which hits different if Buggy was a CD from God Valley like Shanks, and Rocks died trying to free their slaves. He's introduced killing a white lily which you can see in Imu's garden of flowers. It also recontextualises him specifically targeting the Nefertaris and their kingdom. There's still a lot to suggest that Imu is a Nefertari which I won't get into here, Nerona Imu could either be a false name or her original name before she married into the Nefertaris.

Rocks was said to be a big breaker of taboos - and the main thing the World Government considers taboo is researching the Void Century, further foreshadowed by Blackbeard, who still has a lot of evidence for being Rocks' son, also having an interest in archaeology. And Crocodile is similarly interested in the ancient history, going after Pluton, trying to find Alabasta's poneglyph.

If Rocks' crew betrayed him at God Valley, that would explain why he became a Warlord. The Warlords were created to oppose the Emperors, and the three confirmed Emperors at the time Crocodile became a Warlord (16 years ago) were all ex-Rocks crewmates.

Finally if Crocomom IS true, then that opens a whole can of worms. It would parallel Luffy's other D brother who was the son of two Ds. It means Blackbeard is Luffy's uncle. If Rocks was either a Lunarian or Fishman, which there's evidence for both, then Luffy, and Crocodile and Blackbeard would have that in their DNA, maybe this could explain Luffy's Red Roc - the Lunarian fire ability Red ROC literally coming from ROCKS. Also there's a bunch to suggest that Rocks died by drowning and that would further Crocodile's aversion to water and why that fruit chose him. Man I'm gonna stop now it's getting too crazy😅