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hey zoomer you’re one of the reasons im seriously considering turning to christ.

have a blessed day bro.

drugich
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A debate with trent horn on protestantism vs catholicism or on sola scriptura would be cool

justevan
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As a former Protestant, now Catholic, I appreciate the good-faith arguments made in your videos.

I take these arguments seriously and give them careful consideration.

jep
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Oh my word. People. Watch a whole video before you critique it. Im halfway in and there are some things i dont agree with (though so far overall good). But as a matter of intellectual integrity, you need to listen to a whole argument and try to represent what youre critiquing to earn the right to critique it. That really goes for any position you critique, theological or not. It's a matter of virtue. We Christians ought to be the best at doing this.

anglicanaesthetics
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Am I the only one from India who watch your Channel? I myself a Presbyterian, who follows Reform Presbyterian tradition. And i like teaching like this, even i follow ligonier ministry which sound similar like this. Thanks God for his miraculous work. God bless u man.

Maxi-ug
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You don’t understand the orthodox position. We don’t say the Bishop/Priests are infallible, we say the Apostolic Teaching is infallible. This comes in two forms oral tradition and written tradition (Bible). The oral tradition passes down the teachings that aren’t committed to writing and shows us the correct interpretation of those writings. If the entire early church agrees on a doctrine:
1. It demonstrates a work of the Holy Spirit in guiding his church
2. Shows what teaching was passed down to them orally.
3. Shows how these men would have interpreted scripture, when determining if certain books were consistent with other books, when determining the cannon.

You can’t find Calvinism in the early church no matter how hard you look at Augustine, which should be a clue that the Apostles didn’t teach it.

joshuaclark
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Okay I just started watching. Nobody thinks anyone’s a better communicator than God. But CLEARLY, thanks to there being many churches with different ideologies, not everyone is able to understand God so well 😂

wissamboustany
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Hey, Eastern Orthodox guy here. The same reason we don’t believe in sola scriptura is why we venerate saints, it’s not to say that the Bible isn’t of high authority, the church fathers are how we can interpret things. They are not an end all be all, but rather a lens that we view things through. We don’t worship the saints and the theotokos, but we do look at them as exemplary people we should model ourselves after. This may not be fully shared among all orthodox, but that is my understanding of it and it is what I believe, I really do enjoy your content and I appreciate your message☦️

AndrewConger-zboj
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Church Tradition guided by the Holy Spirit CREATED the Biblical Canon. Why would the definitive interpretation of this text not also largely fall under the purview of the Church? As for Sola Scriptura ... it's a myth. The Protestant Bible removes seven Old Testament deuterocanonical Books from the Canon and Luther wanted to remove Books from the New Testament that went against his view on Sola Fides, like the Epistle of James. It sounds more like Luther was interested in creating a Church and Bible to match his own preconceptions rather than seeking truth or trying to purge Catholicism of corruption, which many Catholics were pursuing at that time.

Rivian_Jedi
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May the lord Jesus bless all who are watching

TheSunAnimation
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Hello Redeemed Zoomer,

You have several misunderstandings regarding the critique done towards _Sola_ _Scriptura, _ and I'm going to try and clarify that.

The problem with Sola Scriptura isn't the principle in itself. As you said it yourself, all Christians inherently believe in it, since scripture is part of our infallible Tradition. The problem comes with who is legitimately allowed/capable to transmit the meaning of the scriptures. Sola Scriptura makes most protestants think that anybody can, however, we know this is false for two reasons:
1- the multitude of various interpretations of the scriptures
2- the fact that the scriptures themselves deny that anybody can understand them.

Christ created the Church and appointed/anointed people to guide it in truth through the Holy Spirit (who is infallible). If we need guidance on how to understand scriptures, it is logical that we follow what the bishops say first. And this is confirmed by St Philip in Acts, chapter 8:
30- Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked.
31- “How can I, ” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

The fact that not everybody can interpret the scriptures doesn't make God a bad communicator, it makes us bad listeners. Because even when God clearly and soundly dispensed orders to the Israelites, they still departed from him. That's why we have the Holy Spirit to guide the Church. Because humans are imperfect and rebellious to God in nature. And that's why it is a bad idea that anybody take it onto themselves to read and teach what the scriptures tell us. Now, does it mean that no believers has the right to question authorities? No. And there are countless examples of that happening when heresies arose. Most people didn't know how to read, but through the Tradition of the Church, taught in liturgical services and religious education, people could recognize what was contrary to the message of scriptures. So yes, even though bishops aren't infallible because of sin, what has been decreed by the Church, (who is supposed to be guided by the Holy Spirit in all things as Christ said to the apostles), is then true. Otherwise, you would make Christ (his promise in the scriptures) be a lie.

I hope I have been clear enough.

xeroxyde
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As a cradle Orthodox who fell away from faith and came back to Christianity… I’ve been kind of placed in this double world where I’m in love with the Orthodox church but I also have deep respect for my Protestant brothers and sisters, I can very much empathize with your Sola Scriptura argument. It actually makes sense. I love the zeal that Protestant denominations possess for Christ. And as believers, one of the most important things is to keep our zeal for Him. I think one of the reasons God has allowed for split offs and denominations within the Church is to KEEP zeal within believers. I think God kind of loves how we aim to figure Him out. It is one of the ways we are able to show Him how much we love Him. Otherwise, partly, we might become who the Pharisees were, and only go about the motions of religion rather than possessing a deep love for Christ. Praise the Lord.

jennacuna
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1:38 all the arguments used against sola scripture could’ve been used by the phariseees themselves?! Dude…I hate to break it to you, but the Pharisees and scribes were THE MOST sola scriptura and Jesus literally taught them to follow the spirit of the law rather than the letter.

Red-gphn
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Calling it now: Kyle will be making a video in the next week responding to this w/ based memes.

mccoyyoung
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The Bible is not self-interpreting you absolutely need a normative authority to prevent heresy.

Sola scriptura turns the Bible into a subjective text. There is thousands of different denominations interpreting the Bible differently and coming to their own mutually exclusive conclusions. We see cults popping with their own interpretations of the Bible. All claim to be guided by the holy Spirit.

truegravee
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man im considering catholiscism or orthodoxy, but its good to hear some opposition. great video zoomer

hamontequila
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Some thoughts from a catholic:

Basically, if you accept that there are sacred (=infallible) traditions, you have to believe in the infallibility of the church. Jesus did not reject religious tradition as a whole because he told his disciples to obey the Jewish leaders because they sat on something called “Moses’ seat” (Matt. 23:2-3). This was not an actual chair but a term that referred to a Jewish tradition, not found in Scripture (!), about the Jewish leaders’ teaching authority. In fact, prior to his Ascension into heaven Jesus never commanded the apostles to write anything down. Instead, their mission was to preach the gospel, and the word of God continued to be passed down in oral tradition even after the New Testament was written.

The most striking argument against sola scriptura is the simple fact, that both Catholics and Protestants accept the canon of Scripture which is a Sacred Tradition. The canon of Scripture was first declared in Rome in A.D. 382 and was later defined at two Catholic councils in North Africa (Hippo in A.D. 393 and Carthage in A.D. 397). However, if you are a Christian who denies the authority of the Catholic Church, then by what authority can you say Christians must accept the canon of Scripture found in today’s Bibles? Some say it’s just obvious the books of the Bible all belong there and we don’t need any Church to prove they do, but is it really so obvious? Paul’s letter to Philemon doesn’t teach any specific doctrine, and the third letter of John doesn’t even mention the name of Jesus Christ. Conversely, other writings that were popular in the early Church, like the Didache or the letter of Clement, are not in the canon of Scripture. Others say “the church” determined the canon, but we aren’t obligated to follow what any church might teach today. But if that group of early Christians did not have Christ’s authority, then we have no reason to continue following their doctrinal decisions, including their decisions about the canon. The Protestant theologian R.C. Sproul famously suggested that the best we can say is that the canon of Scripture is “a fallible list of infallible books.” This means any Christian who feels moved by the Holy Spirit could claim that the table of contents in the Bible needs to be revised, or even that some portions of the Bible should be removed.

In fact, 500 years ago Martin Luther and other Protestant Reformers did just that. Luther called the letter of James “an epistle of straw” because it contradicted his theology, so he moved it to the back of the Bible. Even though Luther and the other Reformers kept the letter of James, they removed the deuterocanonicals, from the Old Testament. These
books, like Sirach, Tobit, and Maccabees (among others), were part of the Bible Jesus used and were considered inspired Scripture in the early Church. One reason the Reformers rejected books was because they teach Catholic doctrines like the existence of purgatory and the need to pray for the dead.

Catholics agree we should not believe anything that contradicts God’s word, in either its written form (the Bible) or its oral form (Tradition). If an alleged tradition contradicts Scripture, then the tradition must be of human rather than divine origin. But if a document that claims to be Scripture (such as a forged or heretical gospel) contradicts Sacred Tradition, then it, too, must be of human origin. God speaks through the written word, but only through Scared Tradition can we know which writings are the word of God and which ones are not.

Sacred Tradition also protects the Church from false interpretations of the Bible. My Protestant friends would sometimes debate other religious people who denied basic Christian doctrines like the deity of Christ. They would point out Bible passages that they say proved Jesus is God, only to hear the other person say, “Yes, but that’s not how I interpret those
passages.” I thought it was ironic when one of my Protestant friends said, “But my interpretation of these passages is the same one Christians have held for 2, 000 years!”
This was a perfect example of how God’s word speaks in Scripture through the written word (or what the Bible says), but also through oral Tradition (or teachings about what the Bible means). But whose tradition should we look to for guidance on interpreting the Bible? Protestants can’t even agree among themselves on what the Bible taught concerning issues such as whether babies should be baptized or if salvation can be lost. It’s no wonder that in his second letter St. Peter taught, “no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation” (2 Pet. 1:20).

If anyone has read this far, I recommend watching Trent Horn, who can argue better than I ever will. My arguments above are all from him.

kilian
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Hello Zoomer, I am a Christian currently going through Catholic initiation. I may be incorrect as i am no pastor or priest, but it is my understanding that the pope is only infallible when he declares the word of God from the Holy See. When it comes to "one true church, " I am still unsure of my views surrounding it, but the way I see it, the Catholic church does have the strongest roots to the Early Church fathers. I do agree that the Bible is the highest authority, but I also think the church does have authority appointed by the Lord to apply the Bible to current circumstance. Let me end this by saying I have nothing but love for all my brothers and sisters in Christ, and I wish no bad feelings to anybody who disagrees, I just want to share my point of view. Thanks for the very informative video

wesleysmiley
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First of all, Tchaikovsky was literally the best composer in the world and he was a member of the orthodox church so take that protestants



Second of all, day 9 of pretty please asking to be unbanned from the server 😢

Edit: y'all rly hating on Tchaikovsky cuz he gay, damn 🤣🤣🤣
This entire comment was a joke tho, like damn. There is a reason i said "member of the orthodox church" and not "orthodox christian" cuz i know he ain't the best.

ObliviAce
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“You’re basically saying that councils are better at communicating than God himself through his own word”

Horrible strawman. We’re instead saying that councils are better at INTERPRETING the word than Pastor Jim Bob who believes sola scriptura

jamesbishop