Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Discovery 5.4 - Face The Strange

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My Latinum up was when Stamets asks Reno about some temporal theory and she asks "Are you stuck in a Time Loop right now, Stamets" and the look of shock on his face.

Enigmanaut
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When Burnham said to her younger self "It's been a long road" I reflexively said "Getting from there to here" out loud to myself

CliffCutterActual
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If we don't' get a scene before the end of the season where Rayner "buys" Reno a drink, I'm going to be slightly annoyed.

AstriaStarwynd
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The one thing that was missing was Rayner giving Jett her well deserved drink she mentioned 😅

Ragnahell
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I found stamets clearing engineering funny.
Spore breach. Calm retreat.
Spore breach. Calm retreat.
I'm grumpy. FLEE

williamfarnham
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Would have loved to see lorca. He's in the captain's chair. He asks why he should believe her, she whispers about him getting back to the mirror dimensions

PhillMC
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Stamets *heard* the Krenim Barking Spider. He knows what his Engineering section is supposed to sound like and that thing made a lot of noise for its size.

dwmarch
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Add an up for how Stammets keeps clearing Engineering (between the ‘I was more surly in this time’ and the disappointment that “his” staff doesn’t know that a “spore leak” isn’t a thing).

Add a down for the needlessly flashing lighting during the hallway fight - made it almost impossible to follow what was going on.

Add an up just for the shot of Grudge (we haven’t had much of the queen this season) - but I might be biased.

gregweatherup
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If someone told em 4 years ago, that Discovery would do a flashback episode to Season 1, that hits an emotional nerve, I would have been very sceptical. That just shows how much the show has improved...

PassivesAbseits
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I saw this episode as very reminiscent of Voyager episodes Relativity, and Shattered. Not time loops but jumping to parts of your own past, and in the same way relying and trusting each other to have their own unique insights and experiences to complete the mission, a sum is greater than the parts kind of deal, very Trek.

kenwynn
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What I really loved on scene with the worker is that red uniforms on that timeline are related to security and engineering. So makes all sense their dialog.

UltraRao
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The Krenim time bug had the same temporal effects in this episode as the Krenim torpedo had on Kes that time, jumping through time points.

NathanHeadActor
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I really liked this episode. We see Rayner go through some personal growth, and we’re reminded through Burnham’s earlier self, her growth. In fact, she seems to matured even more, between the 4th and 5th seasons.

dstarling
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I don’t think 2 of the downs are warranted. The first one about how rayner has a go at Rhys is kinda the whole point of the episode to teach him how to trust the crew.

The second one about mentioning Lorca is simply a point of reference if stamets would have said a year or star date i would have been lost and had no idea. By saying Lorca is in command although on an away mission tells us its somewhere in the first 6-8 months of the klingon war before the jaunt to the mirror universe.

keir
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I can find it in my heart to forgive them for not having the scheduling power or the money to get a guy whose name is on posters at the multiplex in for a cameo. If they couldn’t get him, I’m glad to have at least gotten a reference. Remember how excited we were when an alternate universe just barely mentioned a General Sisko? I was more surprised not to get a Pike or Spock cameo, really, but revisiting the first two seasons was neat nonetheless.

My latinum up was Stamets storming into season 1 engineering and clearing it in seconds by declaring, “I am very grumpy today.”

There’s a decent reason for the shipyard guy not to flag the uniforms, I think. There were already radically different uniforms in circulation at the point, between the blue jumpsuits and the modern colors that Pike and Enterprise had. He probably just thought the brass was getting a new uniform. I mean it’s no way to run a fleet, but they did nonetheless.

Stamets landing in the past when he’d been impaled, gotta admit that also made me laugh a horrified little laugh.

FredandGeorge
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No mention of Reno? Her comment about “get better helmets” should have been the latinum up!

robi
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The whole Jet Reno scene deserves an up

slpmtlfavs
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Another great Episode. I love when a captain and the First Officer gets an episode to themselves. Pure skills on display, it was cool seeing the Disco crew from back in the day and showing Arishem again.

wonderswiss
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TBH - I was disappointed there was no Jason Isaacs cameo 😢

Aragorn
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I disagree about the Airiam down. She was exhibiting a knowledge of the person in charge that only someone that had lived in that moment would know and with it knew exactly what Airiam would do in that situation. Her telling the others "She's right, that's exactly what I would do." was her letting the others know that she was telling the truth.

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