Why we're not Buying a Tiny Home | TINY HOME SHOW 2024 Mornington

Are tiny homes Legal?? Are they cheap? Why are they so popular ???
We visit the Tiny home show, learn a lot and get a few answers for ourselves and maybe you too!

[robynmaree]

We lived in a shed home, paid extra for the vermin proofing & extra insulation, then lined & fitted it out ourselves, picked up a second hand kitchen & bathroom fit out, super rewarding and cost effective.

[AGreenPatch]

I agree with all of your points. I always wanted to live in a tiny home for the values of simplicity, affordability and independence, I thought it’ was the best option a young single woman to find housing. After years of researching tiny homes, I found that they are super expensive and you can’t legally park them. It’s hard to find a block of land to purchase that’s affordable to park incognito…. And are likely going to be asked to move in by councils Even if you do the ‘dodgy’ and park on someone’s land, you’re still technically renting… so that takes away from the home ownership draw card.

I really wish government would allow people to park a tiny on a lot (say even for 5 years). I think it would greatly alleviate some of the housing issues Australia is seeing nationwide.

Thanks for the video!

[Abundancelivingaustralia]

If the government/council isn’t going to provide more affordable living/make more land available through subdivision they need to start looking at approving alternatives.

[kaiphoenix]

Have you considered a “house for removal” sometimes they even give them away for free and you only have to pay the cost of removal, transport and restumping on your land, approx $35K-$60K all said and done. Cost depending on size of house and how far to transport so look for something local in your vicinity and surrounding towns. You could get yourself a decent 3 bedroom weather board this way and then later on down the line when you have more funds you could Reno it which would make for great video content. Another option is shipping container homes. I’ve seen people get 2 or 3 shipping containers and join them together in various configurations to create beautiful homes.

[katiec]

Hey just to let you know my partner worked making these tiny homes and the costs to build are about 50-60k just to help you with your costings on your future build. They’ll get materials cheaper as they buy in bulk but hopefully it’ll help with your calculations. I’ve noticed this channel is new, you’re doing great and appreciate all the helpful info. We plan on buying land and building/ homesteading too

[bitminerbob]

If I were your age and starting out, I would do a shipping container home. 2 shipping containers 4m apart with a deck in the middle. Bedrooms down one side and living areas/kitchen down the other side. Roof over the top. Heaps of solar panels. Collect the rainwater. Happy days. :)

[Mark_Kelder]

Hey love your videos guys, I used to build tiny homes and can tell you these companies are in it for the $$, tiny homes are a big money spinner atm. 150-200k price tag for about $50k of materials. You’re doing it smart to do all the work you can do yourself. You’re going to come out so much better off! God bless guys! 😊

[lorrainecostanzo]

Many people here in NE Vic buy sheds and turn them into homes as they can be home built, mainly 2 storey (like hay sheds ) or similar, they turn out nice

[hrausss]

When self building a large roof no hips no valleys. One long rectangle .

Then kitchen use a industrial of the shelf kitchen . Bathroom finish it because you will never move the plumbing. Flooring you can do yourself .

You will find a frame and truss is similar price to a shed home but all internal walls are ready to go.

Use fibro on the walls exterior because it is super fast cheap and you can do it yourself. In the future you can remove it and change it cheap and fast . ( Look at board and batten Texas)

Also design it that with no hips and valleys with a middle hall it can be extended at a future date with no roof change .

If you design a home with the plan to make more rooms make the middle hall to a extra living room . Then you can build internal walls latter to make more bedrooms.

Think out of the box the council approves a large home 2 bed then after approval and finished add windows and a couple of more beds and another bathroom as your financial position changes

[djidjvi]

Have a look at the WEEKENDER 60 from Sheds n Homes. They have been around for years, so they have experience with councils around Australia. Because of the lower price YOU build it (which is cool) but with a low price point it allows for all the other expenses that will add up. May keep you under that 100k

[JimBob-qhgl]

Good Story Guys, your right with the not legal part in VIC, NSW is different and most states but VIC very tough unless its a granny flat, Price is way too high but they need to make money. I owner built a 2 Bed 1 Bath 125m2 home for 80k ( would be 120k now with inflation ) Vaulted + 9 Foot ceilings, Polished concrete floors, stone top kitchen with 18 drawers, Cooling but no heating, Light weight cladding and double glazed windows. I didn't need a septic. I did the Cladding, Fix out, Site prep, Deck and External painting. Hardest part is you need 50% deposit for the bank and you need to wait for trades. I had a 6 month wait from slab down to frame and roof going on so took about 18 month total. BAL rating may be tough with those trees near by.
Have fun with it

[havenwoodtinyhomes]

Hey guys! Thanks for featuring our homes on your video!
We would like to reaffirm anyone that may be watching; tiny homes are legal 😉 We can’t speak on behalf of other builders, but because of the way we build our homes, we can either be classed as a caravan OR be approved as a primary dwelling with a DA OR be approved as a granny flat with a DA.

We also offer shell options for people who may be on a budget, so they can get the house and finish fit off themselves to save costs😊

(Also, we would appreciate a tag in the comments and video next time, especially if you’re grabbing photos from our page 😉)

Glad you guys enjoyed the expo nonetheless! Good luck on your journey!! 🥰

[janegarrick]

After watching the first couple of videos - and hearing all your plans/dreams, I didn’t picture you in a tiny house. I saw you in a big cabin with one large kitchen/living room with a big old table and mismatched armchairs, and a few small rooms - even a couple of lofts (that you can stand up properly in). I love all the stories that come with people who chose to live in a tiny house, but the houses themselves always seem a bit sterile, and despite what they may say, cramped. Growing children need room to spread out! You will need a mud room, a big laundry, a claw foot bath, a big deck … and a shed! Good luck, guys, really looking forward to following along (and living vicariously through you).

[mandydriscoll]

I'd suggest looking at Widespan kit homes....we are getting one through them and build ourselves

[tinyhomesexpo]

What a great video! We aim to make the expo as informative as possible - so I am glad you found it educational (keep in mind the speaker hall has a Q+A - you could have come in there and asked a few questions for some of your specific options (I would have given you advice on how to un-caravan your tiny house and get it as a certified Class 1a building!). And a full talk on the composting & incinerating toilets and grey water options. And a huge conversation on the fact that tiny homes are not illegal. Tiny homes are not illegal in any council jurisdiction across Australia. But, each council regulation is indeed a 'maze' to say the least, so we get it that people use the word 'illegal'. Tiny homes as a PRIMARY DWELLING is, without doubt, incredibly hard to achieve. It can be done. The speaker, Elle Paton, explains how she got full council approval slap bang in the middle of St Kilda, Vic. (tip: not for the faint hearted, it was a nightmare!). Anyways, I wanted to point out that 90% of all the builders will offer a lock up version of any home, and you look like you could DIY the rest and make a beautiful home, over time, with your own touches, and within a lower budget. (But your choice to build a bigger one is also excellent... I would recommend getting an owner builder licence, and a certifier in place - having a frame made for you - engineered - will be a big step in saving yourself headaches in the long run (treehab were there and could get you an engineered frame, bespoke to your needs). You have a beautiful family, and this is a really lovely video showing your journey, and highlighting the reality of how hard it is both logistically and as a cost effective alternative. We, alongside others, advocate to councils - constantly. This is a perfect example why councils should think outside the box and change their regulations to accommodate a growing number of people that want to live tiny, and come across the same hurdles as you have. I hope I can come back here and watch your next steps and journey, until you achieve your ultimate goals.

[Roland]

I built a mud-brick home for my family over 30 years ago arriving like you with just a caravan but with no power or water on 9.75 acres. First thing I built was a place for my 2 daughters which was a geodesic dome. Bunnings were selling the kits being galv. plates that when used with pre-cut length of timber all bolted together, gave you a frame to clad. Think the max. length for the 100x50 treated pine was 2.7m. I'm now at the stage of maybe buying a ready-made grand-daddy flat so interested in what you're going to explain.

[peterwhelan]

Good on you Mate, a sensible conclusion after the family’s research .If you couldn’t build even a very basic 5sq cottage all up for I’d be surprised ( and horrified ) Good luck, keep up the videos and God Bless you all - you are on the right track .

[StevePositiveHuntingtonJourney]

Hi guys 😅. I am thoroughly enjoying watching your videos. We are in our 60's, devoted Christians in Queensland, Australian, & we have also started to set up a life of living off the grid.
My hubby unfortunately has Huntington's Disease & like you at your age had many dreams bringing up our 3 daughters. We have now been married nearly 46 years & have 3 beautiful daughters married to 3 amazing son-in-laws +😅10 awesome grandchildren. All love the Lord & we are a very close family.
My hubby Steve (see profile) is very positive & wanted to help others on similar journeys of illness. We believe by living this way, with an incurable disease, we can contribute to slowing this nasty disease down.
Fast forward - we now have 25 videos on our YouTube Channel to encourage others.
Keep up the good work - we love your hearts 🥰🙏😁

[FlobberwellGweneveve]

just buy one of those massive sheds. Double story, over 200sq/m area, strong, steel construction. Just pour a slab, and kit it out as a home. Chuck in a solar powered air-con, too. Just make sure there isn't a bathroom. Construct an outdoor bathroom/toilet. If there's no bathroom, it can't be classified as a dwelling place, just a shed. These sheds are massive and are bigger than most homes, and cheap-as. Around $20k and you'll have it, installed, colorbond cladding, doors/windows etc. Job done, mate.

[reo]

In December 2023 the rules changed in Victoria. No council approval is needed for a property that already has an existing dwelling (house). Small second homes on the same lot can give kids somewhere to stay when they visit for the weekend or provide a critical second income.